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Old 09-13-2019, 09:42 AM   #5566
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Old 09-13-2019, 09:50 AM   #5567
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Did anyone notice that McCabeís effort to avoid indictment was denied? That
would make my week if it came down today.
And if it does hereís hoping itís just the first one.
I think if your a true American and not just a party loyalist you would want the truth to come out. Only then can you make a real informed decision.

It seems weíre on that road. We all want a relatively speedy resolution and a complete compilation of evidence with a factual timeline incorporated.

But I think weíll see a nice slow burn until about next Halloween, with trickles of truth of deception released frequently throughout the timeframe, culminating in a damning final report giving Trump the wanted but unnecessary springboard to absolutely crush whatever lamb they put forth from that clusterfvck last night.
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Old 09-13-2019, 02:13 PM   #5568
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I think if your a true American and not just a party loyalist you would want the truth to come out. Only then can you make a real informed decision.

It seems weíre on that road. We all want a relatively speedy resolution and a complete compilation of evidence with a factual timeline incorporated.

But I think weíll see a nice slow burn until about next Halloween, with trickles of truth of deception released frequently throughout the timeframe, culminating in a damning final report giving Trump the wanted but unnecessary springboard to absolutely crush whatever lamb they put forth from that clusterfvck last night.
Great post. But one cautionary note about calling the election. Itís not a good idea. The HRC lovers and the media did that and it turned out so well for them. It would be really bad to make the same mistake. Iíd love for it to happen but people gonna have to get out and vote in droves.
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Great post. But one cautionary note about calling the election. Itís not a good idea. The HRC lovers and the media did that and it turned out so well for them. It would be really bad to make the same mistake. Iíd love for it to happen but people gonna have to get out and vote in droves.
Oh I agree on that. I hate to call anything typically. Youíll notice I donít partake in any of the gameday prediction stuff.

Iíll be pushing in droves to vote. I think we know who for.

That left is dangerous.
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It's just another topic on which he is ill-informed and is listening to the wrong people. I smoked from age 15 to 49. Menthol lung darts, pipe tobacco and cigars. I even bought a nice roller, tubes and different flavored tobacco to make my own blends (I tell ya, nothing like a 50/50 blend of menthol and cherry Cavendish pipe tobacco tightly packed in a menthol filtered tube).

So all that said, I have little use for unflavored tobacco and as such, the flavored e-juices have kept me vaping for the past several years, and more recently from tobacco altogether as I switched over completely several months ago.

Now, I know vaping likely isn't healthy and of course it's not better than quitting, but I have to say I feel better than I have in years. I can breath again, so no more rescue inhaler or Symbicort. I can taste food again, so no more using obscene amounts of salt to season my food. I can smell again (which does have some negatives lol, but overall still a plus). I am sure some studies somewhere will (or have) happen down the road that will turn vaping on it's ear, but to me it damned near has to be several levels better than smoking tobacco.
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Inhaling anything but air into ones lungs is stupid.
So I am stupid.
JUUL works for me currently.
No more hacking.
I don't inhale flavored crap
I have lowered nic. concentration and amount.
But I don't want the govt helping me.
I know my body.
Leave me alone.

oh and my teeth are happy.

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Old 09-14-2019, 07:34 AM   #5577
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If using vaping to quit and you’re lowering how much nicotine you’re getting and quitting smoking , great. That is what they were intended for. If you’re vaping to put out big smoke clouds and “look cool”, that is not the intended reason for them. Especially if you never smoked before. I have a coworker that smokes, we worked together for four hours the other day. I estimate he was outside smoking at least 2.5 hours. Every time I looked to where he sits he was gone. He also smelled like an ash tray if you got within a few feet of him. If you want to smoke, it don’t bother me much, when i can smell it, it does.
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Inhaling anything but air into ones lungs is stupid.
So I am stupid.
JUUL works for me currently.
No more hacking.
I don't inhale flavored crap
I have lowered nic. concentration and amount.
But I don't want the govt helping me.
I know my body.
Leave me alone.

oh and my teeth are happy.
ve Trump and will happily vote for him again,

I donít inhale it. For me itís about the cloud experence. Itís relaxing and seems to help with the crushing levels of anxiety that Iím prone to. I love Trump and will happily vote for him again but there are some areas I disagree with him. This is one of them.
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Every candidate is going to have platforms you don’t necessarily agree with. It’s how much importance you place on said issue.

Vaping wont bump 2nd Ammendment in priority level.

Smoked for 7 yrs. Anything that helps folks quit is cool with me. I just hope 10-15 yrs from now we aren’t hearing of irrevocable lung damage induced by vaping.
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He's backtracking now after getting inundated with calls and petitions from the 22 million Americans that vape. At least he's listening to the people.

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