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Old 09-24-2019, 04:20 PM   #1
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Pelosi announces Impeachment Inquiry

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tune in as I speak live from the U.S. Capitol. <a href="https://t.co/j6UMq4TC5u">https://t.co/j6UMq4TC5u</a></p>&mdash; Nancy Pelosi (@SpeakerPelosi) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1176602551006965760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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It's gonna be funny to see all the Establishment's faces when she decides not to allow articles of Impeachment.

Here's Jimmy Dore showing why she didn't Impeach Bush.

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Huh, so a President using foreign policy decisions, in an effort to influence their re-election, is grounds for impeachment.

So, how many Presidents should have been impeached then? Half? More?
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These people are doing everything they can to attack the President so it can take the spotlight off their own crimes. They know William Barr and the gang are going to drop the hammer on certain traitorous assholes soon.
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Attorney for Ukraine “whistleblower” turns out to be a former Schumer and Hillary staffer

The Right Scoop SEP. 24, 2019 9:00 PM BY THE RIGHT SCOOP • 43 COMMENTS

Earlier today it was revealed that the attorney for the “whistleblower” is actually a former Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton staffer:
Whistleblower is rep'd by former Schumer and HRC staffer. That's a political football.https://compassrosepllc.com/bakaj/

Prior to joining the Department of Defense, Andrew was a private practice attorney in Washington, DC and clerked with the Department of Justice. Furthermore, he has Capitol Hill experience having served three United States Senators: Senators Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Charles E. Schumer, and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

The Washington Examiner had a report out earlier on this as well, titled “Ukraine whistleblower’s lawyers work for group that offers to pay officials who leak against Trump”:

The anonymous U.S. intelligence official accusing President Trump of improperly pressuring Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden is represented by two lawyers who run a group that offers financial help to fired whistleblowers.

Whistleblower Aid was launched in September 2017 — eight months after Trump’s inauguration — with an advertising blitz that involved mobile billboards being driven close to the White House, Congress, outside the Pentagon, and around the headquarters of the CIA and National Security Agency.

The group’s pledge of support, in addition to free legal representation including rent and mortgage assistance, media coaching, and doctor’s bills and counseling, is controversial among lawyers. Critics say it violates attorney ethics.

Whistleblower Aid was founded by veteran national security defense attorney Mark Zaid and John Tye, a whistleblower who worked to promote internet freedom at the State Department before warning of mass surveillance during the Obama administration. Andrew Bakaj, a former CIA officer who is associated with Zaid’s firm, is also a lawyer for Whistleblower Aid.

Zaid and Bakaj represent the official who claimed whistleblower status in raising the case of the Ukraine call.

And with Bakaj’s strong connections to Democrats via Schumer and Hillary, now you know how the so-called “whistleblower” complaint surfaced to Democrats and the media last week.

Trump had said that he’d been told the “whistleblower” was a partisan and that’s exactly what this looks like.

https://therightscoop.com/attorney-f...llary-staffer/
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Old 09-25-2019, 04:47 AM   #7
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Dog and pony show to appease the ignorant.

I watched the judiciary committee for a couple of hours last night. They even chose to use non legal language, such as substituting "thwart" for "obstruct", and failing to actually charge Trump with anything in their own document.

Strictly an election year circus, no teeth in it. Pelosi had to do it to prop up Nadler, and Nadler had to do it because he is facing getting primaried out of a job. They are basically AOC-bots challenging him, and they might win.
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Dog and pony show is correct. Pelosi claiming they are doing an inquiry is pure grandstanding. The house has to vote on conducting a formal inquiry and unless they do, there isn't an inquiry.
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WHENEVER PEOPLE TAKE POSITIONS that make no logical sense in their own terms, look for a hidden motive.

That's my reaction to the sudden turnabout of Nancy Pelosi and the House leadership regarding the launch of impeachment proceedings against President Trump. If you haven't been paying attention (and I don't blame you), the alleged motive for this abrupt lurch to impeachment is a phone call Trump had with the Ukrainian president. This call was allegedly so disturbing to some anonymous member of the intelligence community that he reported it to an inspector general.

This is the alleged Democratic rationale for impeachment. Except, according to media reports....

1. The "whistleblower" is anonymous.
2. He or she did not listen in on the phone call.
3. He or she did not even read a transcript of the phone call.
4. Thus -- unlike all the people who DID listen in or read the transcript, but did NOT raise any alarm bells -- this anonymous individual has NO first-hand knowledge of the content of the conversation.
5. In other words, this person's charges have the status of rumor-mongering and, from a legal standpoint, hearsay. His or her testimony would be tossed out of any court inside of 15 seconds.

Yet after all the prior excuses and trial balloons launched by Democratic partisans to start an impeachment inquiry, THIS is what they claim is so damning that it justifies such a drastic and socially disruptive step. And they do so even though the reported subject matter of the phone call was damaging charges of corruption against the son of Joe Biden, and the candidate himself. Bringing this matter into the spotlight is guaranteed to hurt Biden. And they KNOW that Trump won't be removed from office, because that takes a 2/3's majority in the Senate, which is controlled by the Republicans. So impeachment will go nowhere.

And as a rationale for impeachment, unsubstantiated hearsay about the content of a phone call is absurd on its face. None of the reasons offered make any sense. So, why are they doing it? What's really going on?

Here's a theory I've yet to see advanced elsewhere:

Within a couple of weeks or so, the DOJ will be releasing a damning report by its Inspector General on how top figures in the Obama administration concocted the "Russia collusion" hoax against Trump, and how it was Team Hillary -- not Team Trump -- that was actually colluding with Russia. This could very well lead to embarrassing hearings and criminal indictments. Normally, corruption of this magnitude would dominate the news. It will control the campaign narrative...

...unless the desperate Democrats do something to wrest the narrative back from the GOP. And the only narrative big enough to drown out the coming revelations against them will be impeachment of the president. Because to the left, it is all, always, and only about controlling the narrative. That's the key to their seizing and holding power.

Impeachment will give the liberal media something else to focus on, so that they can bury the story of the Russian collusion hoax, and the corruption of top officials in Obama's intelligence, national security, and justice apparatus. The Democrats, sweating bullets about that prospect, will try to gin up impeachment hysteria with their many media accomplices, hoping to distract the public.

It doesn't matter to the left that impeachment will go nowhere. It only matters to them that the public's eyes and ears go somewhere other than the Russia collusion scandal.

That's what I think this is all about.

Keep my theory in mind during the coming weeks and months. Watch the mainstream media, and how much attention they give to the two respective "stories" -- Trump's impeachment vs. the Russia collusion scandal. Watch them try to inflate the former, and bury or trivialize the latter.

I don't think they can get away with it. But at this point, distraction and deception is all they've got.

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Dog and pony show is correct. Pelosi claiming they are doing an inquiry is pure grandstanding. The house has to vote on conducting a formal inquiry and unless they do, there isn't an inquiry.
I know what you're saying, but I want to clarify the language, because that is the key to understanding....

An "inquiry" means nothing at all. It is an informal nothing, without any actual legislative or legal meaning or value.

A full vote of the House is needed for a "proceeding"....which means an active impeachment process is underway.

They use Washington lawyer speak to confuse and befuddle the masses...a way of telling lies without actually telling lies. The language is chosen and considered specifically to mislead the public about what is going on, for political purposes. They know their leftist NPC followers will interpret what they say as meaning that impeachment is underway, while there is actually no such legal proceeding.

So...any time you hear the word "inquiry", you can just as easily substitute the word "bullshit" and it has the same weight of meaning. This doesn't preclude the full House from voting for an inquiry, of course....which will mean about as much as a pre-season football game....it's just sort of practice but doesn't mean anything, it's not real.

When translating what is going on in Washington, it is important to scrutinize the particular language, think like a lawyer. Most of their lies are told by using language with no legal meaning but they know will manipulate the voters into believing something that is not real.
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I know what you're saying, but I want to clarify the language, because that is the key to understanding....

An "inquiry" means nothing at all. It is an informal nothing, without any actual legislative or legal meaning or value.

A full vote of the House is needed for a "proceeding"....which means an active impeachment process is underway.

They use Washington lawyer speak to confuse and befuddle the masses...a way of telling lies without actually telling lies. The language is chosen and considered specifically to mislead the public about what is going on, for political purposes. They know their leftist NPC followers will interpret what they say as meaning that impeachment is underway, while there is actually no such legal proceeding.

So...any time you hear the word "inquiry", you can just as easily substitute the word "bullshit" and it has the same weight of meaning. This doesn't preclude the full House from voting for an inquiry, of course....which will mean about as much as a pre-season football game....it's just sort of practice but doesn't mean anything, it's not real.

When translating what is going on in Washington, it is important to scrutinize the particular language, think like a lawyer. Most of their lies are told by using language with no legal meaning but they know will manipulate the voters into believing something that is not real.
I like the way you wrote this so much I cut and pasted it on my FB wall. Huge plus 1.
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I know what you're saying, but I want to clarify the language, because that is the key to understanding....

An "inquiry" means nothing at all. It is an informal nothing, without any actual legislative or legal meaning or value.

A full vote of the House is needed for a "proceeding"....which means an active impeachment process is underway.

They use Washington lawyer speak to confuse and befuddle the masses...a way of telling lies without actually telling lies. The language is chosen and considered specifically to mislead the public about what is going on, for political purposes. They know their leftist NPC followers will interpret what they say as meaning that impeachment is underway, while there is actually no such legal proceeding.

So...any time you hear the word "inquiry", you can just as easily substitute the word "bullshit" and it has the same weight of meaning. This doesn't preclude the full House from voting for an inquiry, of course....which will mean about as much as a pre-season football game....it's just sort of practice but doesn't mean anything, it's not real.

When translating what is going on in Washington, it is important to scrutinize the particular language, think like a lawyer. Most of their lies are told by using language with no legal meaning but they know will manipulate the voters into believing something that is not real.

They fooled me for a moment. Thanks for clarifying,

Cheers
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WHENEVER PEOPLE TAKE POSITIONS that make no logical sense in their own terms, look for a hidden motive.

That's my reaction to the sudden turnabout of Nancy Pelosi and the House leadership regarding the launch of impeachment proceedings against President Trump. If you haven't been paying attention (and I don't blame you), the alleged motive for this abrupt lurch to impeachment is a phone call Trump had with the Ukrainian president. This call was allegedly so disturbing to some anonymous member of the intelligence community that he reported it to an inspector general.

This is the alleged Democratic rationale for impeachment. Except, according to media reports....

1. The "whistleblower" is anonymous.
2. He or she did not listen in on the phone call.
3. He or she did not even read a transcript of the phone call.
4. Thus -- unlike all the people who DID listen in or read the transcript, but did NOT raise any alarm bells -- this anonymous individual has NO first-hand knowledge of the content of the conversation.
5. In other words, this person's charges have the status of rumor-mongering and, from a legal standpoint, hearsay. His or her testimony would be tossed out of any court inside of 15 seconds.

Yet after all the prior excuses and trial balloons launched by Democratic partisans to start an impeachment inquiry, THIS is what they claim is so damning that it justifies such a drastic and socially disruptive step. And they do so even though the reported subject matter of the phone call was damaging charges of corruption against the son of Joe Biden, and the candidate himself. Bringing this matter into the spotlight is guaranteed to hurt Biden. And they KNOW that Trump won't be removed from office, because that takes a 2/3's majority in the Senate, which is controlled by the Republicans. So impeachment will go nowhere.

And as a rationale for impeachment, unsubstantiated hearsay about the content of a phone call is absurd on its face. None of the reasons offered make any sense. So, why are they doing it? What's really going on?

Here's a theory I've yet to see advanced elsewhere:

Within a couple of weeks or so, the DOJ will be releasing a damning report by its Inspector General on how top figures in the Obama administration concocted the "Russia collusion" hoax against Trump, and how it was Team Hillary -- not Team Trump -- that was actually colluding with Russia. This could very well lead to embarrassing hearings and criminal indictments. Normally, corruption of this magnitude would dominate the news. It will control the campaign narrative...

...unless the desperate Democrats do something to wrest the narrative back from the GOP. And the only narrative big enough to drown out the coming revelations against them will be impeachment of the president. Because to the left, it is all, always, and only about controlling the narrative. That's the key to their seizing and holding power.

Impeachment will give the liberal media something else to focus on, so that they can bury the story of the Russian collusion hoax, and the corruption of top officials in Obama's intelligence, national security, and justice apparatus. The Democrats, sweating bullets about that prospect, will try to gin up impeachment hysteria with their many media accomplices, hoping to distract the public.

It doesn't matter to the left that impeachment will go nowhere. It only matters to them that the public's eyes and ears go somewhere other than the Russia collusion scandal.

That's what I think this is all about.

Keep my theory in mind during the coming weeks and months. Watch the mainstream media, and how much attention they give to the two respective "stories" -- Trump's impeachment vs. the Russia collusion scandal. Watch them try to inflate the former, and bury or trivialize the latter.

I don't think they can get away with it. But at this point, distraction and deception is all they've got.

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the Democrats' internal numbers look very different from the happy, sunshiny, "we're all kicking Trump's ass" message they put forth. They're losing with the American people and losing big. Trump is going to be re-elected. They're going to lose the House. There is a fairly significant likelihood that they don't even get the votes they need to move this to the Senate should there even be a proceeding. This a hail mary on the last play of the game down by 8. They know it's going to fail, they know it's going to do nothing but energize Trump's base and swing a massive amount of Independents in that direction as well...but they've got nothing else and they need to keep their base engaged or it's going to be a bloodbath
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I'll advance your theory further-

the Democrats' internal numbers look very different from the happy, sunshiny, "we're all kicking Trump's ass" message they put forth. They're losing with the American people and losing big. Trump is going to be re-elected. They're going to lose the House. There is a fairly significant likelihood that they don't even get the votes they need to move this to the Senate should there even be a proceeding. This a hail mary on the last play of the game down by 8. They know it's going to fail, they know it's going to do nothing but energize Trump's base and swing a massive amount of Independents in that direction as well...but they've got nothing else and they need to keep their base engaged or it's going to be a bloodbath
Unless Trump pulls a BB and puts Gronk/Gulliani in coverage.
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I'll advance your theory further-

the Democrats' internal numbers look very different from the happy, sunshiny, "we're all kicking Trump's ass" message they put forth. They're losing with the American people and losing big. Trump is going to be re-elected. They're going to lose the House. There is a fairly significant likelihood that they don't even get the votes they need to move this to the Senate should there even be a proceeding. This a hail mary on the last play of the game down by 8. They know it's going to fail, they know it's going to do nothing but energize Trump's base and swing a massive amount of Independents in that direction as well...but they've got nothing else and they need to keep their base engaged or it's going to be a bloodbath
I agree, and will go even one step further....

The real threat to the democrats is the rising star of young socialists in their party. That's bigger than Trump. The mortal threat that Pelosi and Nadler face is their own version of the Tea Party...but for them it is the die hard socialists like AOC and Bernie.

Pelosi and Nadler can survive Trump, even if he gets re-elected. But they can't survive a successful socialist movement from within...the 5th column.

That's why they are playing the "impeachment inquiry" card....because the "old Washington democrats are doing NOTHING about Trump" narrative within their own party is eroding their power rapidly going into the primaries.
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