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Old 09-26-2012, 10:48 AM   #31
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I really dislike . Owners seem to really like him.

I don't think this would happen with Tagliabue in charge. I know it wouldn't with Pete Rozelle running the show.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:50 AM   #32
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Compensation for NFL referees is not even a line item in the NFL budget. The yearly charge is so small, they are added into the miscellaneous column. Relative to the overall budget, the $ amounts in discussion are so small that they could raise the price of stadium hotdogs by 5 cents to cover the cost. Why they can't make the small investment here is beyond my comprehension.....
Meanwhile many of these owners employ family memebers to do jack shit.

Hey, its up to them how they spend $ they earned, but to turn around and draw the line with the officials and have the game turn into a circus like this is pathetic.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:57 AM   #33
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You would think that if this continues to effect outcomes of games they would be screaming, I just am afraid this could end up having major implications twords the end of the season and that's why I'm shocked that owners are so ho hum about it.
IMO,,,,the monday night game is the only game that can 100 % be attributed to effecting the standings and possible playoffs....because it happened on the last play of the game and turned a win into a loss for GB. All of the other major screw ups......didnt have such a direct impact
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:00 AM   #34
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IMO,,,,the monday night game is the only game that can 100 % be attributed to effecting the standings and possible playoffs....because it happened on the last play of the game and turned a win into a loss for GB. All of the other major screw ups......didnt have such a direct impact
I know I'm biased, but the Pats had several phantom calls that kept drives alive and put points on the board for the Ravens.

Not to mention the game winning field goal that didn't look good to me...the officials didn't even look up at it..
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:01 AM   #35
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I understand the hate for , but does anyone think he's not doing what the owners want? I can't see the owners wanting to end this, but Roger telling them no. He works for them.
Exactly this. I've been on the negotiations team for my union, and it's NOT the management negotiators sitting across the table from you who decide the proposals management presents. What the execs in the fancy offices want is what they put on the table and what they accept or reject, even if they know that the union will never accept certain things.

If the owners (or in the case of my employer, a college, our Board of Trustees) says, "settle it now", the contract gets settled.

may or may NOT be in agreement with the owners but to think he is defying them is just silly. I am NOT surprised at all that the author of this op-ed piece is an academician. It's typical ivory-tower disconnect from the real world that too many academicians display. As someone who works in academia, I know of what I speak.

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Old 09-26-2012, 11:06 AM   #36
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It appears they've been busy since the Tate disaster, and it's being reported in the last 20 minutes, that the refs could be back this weekend, if not next week barring a major setback
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:49 AM   #37
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I know I'm biased, but the Pats had several phantom calls that kept drives alive and put points on the board for the Ravens.

Not to mention the game winning field goal that didn't look good to me...the officials didn't even look up at it..
unfortunately....I think all teams have been hurt or benefited from phantom calls. Regarding that FG......if the ball is towards the outside part of the upright, if ANY part of the ball crosses over the upright (even a lace)...it is good.....much like if a flyl ball slightly grazes the foul pole, on the foul side of the pole...it is fair.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:54 AM   #38
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unfortunately....I think all teams have been hurt or benefited from phantom calls. Regarding that FG......if the ball is towards the outside part of the upright, if ANY part of the ball crosses over the upright (even a lace)...it is good.....much like if a flyl ball slightly grazes the foul pole, on the foul side of the pole...it is fair.
Actually, it's the other way around. If any part of the ball passes outside the post, the kick is not good.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:56 AM   #39
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unfortunately....I think all teams have been hurt or benefited from phantom calls. Regarding that FG......if the ball is towards the outside part of the upright, if ANY part of the ball crosses over the upright (even a lace)...it is good.....much like if a flyl ball slightly grazes the foul pole, on the foul side of the pole...it is fair.
Well first of all, from the back angle, no part of the ball passes over anything except the field, and it would not have mattered because the refs were not looking up anyway.
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Actually, it's the other way around. If any part of the ball passes outside the post, the kick is not good.
I sit corrected.....my mistake.....I still thought the FG was good. But I have a biased and vested interest in that games outcome
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I know I'm biased, but the Pats had several phantom calls that kept drives alive and put points on the board for the Ravens.

Not to mention the game winning field goal that didn't look good to me...the officials didn't even look up at it..
Hey I'm biased too! That kick looked dead on to me.
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I sit corrected.....my mistake.....I still thought the FG was good. But I have a biased and vested interest in that games outcome
That interpretation is from Mike Pereira immediately following the game.
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I sit corrected.....my mistake.....I still thought the FG was good. But I have a biased and vested interest in that games outcome
Actually I bet you did not think it was good until you saw the refs raise their hands...because I yelled its no good, and was bias was that I think balls should actually have to go through the uprights to be good. Sadly if that was the only f'd up thing in that came that screwed the pats, I would probably get over it, but no....there were many many other things that the refs did that made that call look decent.
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That interpretation is from Mike Pereira immediately following the game.
I didn't hear his interpretation at all.....what I posted was just what my understanding of the rule was.
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I didn't hear his interpretation at all.....what I posted was just what my Jets biased against the pats said to do.
Fixed that for you.
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