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Old 06-11-2018, 09:57 PM   #136
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I'm starting to think that some of my fellow pats fans believe anything the media feeds them. Again. Brady does resistance training which is raved about by popular fitness mags and experts. If Brady thinks the training helps, and so far its hard to argue with the success who gives a flying fuck what he does as long as its legal. Tying Edelman's PED bust to it is a Volin, Dan S column waiting to happen. The boston media is finally getting its way.


LOL fitness mags. Please donít ever assume those are legitimate sources.

And thatís not to say resistance training doesnít have its place but itís also not new.

Iíve said I donít give a shit what Brady does or how much he believes in the guy, as long as it works for him. But that doesnít mean this guy has some secret method to sell to others to achieve the same benefits. Iíll believe that when I see it.

Iíve said it before. Pretty much guaranteed that Tom is a genetic outlier in terms of aging. His weird diet and goofy training guru canít overcome genetics, just the same as eating and training like Arnold wonít give you anything close to his godlike chest genetics.

There are tons of athletes out there using a variety of techniques and regimes to perform at elite levels. We have pretty much one of the only cases in history of a guy trending UP around age 40. Whatís more likely? That some guy found the secret to tapping a fountain of youth with resistance bands, or that athlete is a genetic outlier?


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LOL fitness mags. Please donít ever assume those are legitimate sources.

And thatís not to say resistance training doesnít have its place but itís also not new.

Iíve said I donít give a shit what Brady does or how much he believes in the guy, as long as it works for him. But that doesnít mean this guy has some secret method to sell to others to achieve the same benefits. Iíll believe that when I see it.

Iíve said it before. Pretty much guaranteed that Tom is a genetic outlier in terms of aging. His weird diet and goofy training guru canít overcome genetics, just the same as eating and training like Arnold wonít give you anything close to his godlike chest genetics.

There are tons of athletes out there using a variety of techniques and regimes to perform at elite levels. We have pretty much one of the only cases in history of a guy trending UP around age 40. Whatís more likely? That some guy found the secret to tapping a fountain of youth with resistance bands, or that athlete is a genetic outlier?


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The interesting part of all this to me is that if TB believes in it, it will work for him whether or not it's actually working. There are many studies that show the power of the brain regarding cause and effect. Our brains are fully capable of altering attitudes, outlooks &, therefore, outcomes. The placebo effect is a simple example and it's a very real phenomenon. So I say, if he thinks it's working then go for it! Yep...the mind is a powerful thing.
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Old 06-12-2018, 05:28 AM   #138
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The interesting part of all this to me is that if TB believes in it, it will work for him whether or not it's actually working. There are many studies that show the power of the brain regarding cause and effect. Our brains are fully capable of altering attitudes, outlooks &, therefore, outcomes. The placebo effect is a simple example and it's a very real phenomenon. So I say, if he thinks it's working then go for it! Yep...the mind is a powerful thing.
Yes Tom has faith in the process working, who am I to question his faith if I believe it is all hocus pocus?
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Old 06-12-2018, 05:33 AM   #139
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Not sure why you would think I was defending or advocating for big pharma. In fact pharma has little to do with what this guy does as his methods arenít typically replacing drugs.

Same with dieting and fitness in general.

I donít disagree that there are issues with big pharma but itís not really relevant to the topic.


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The only "diet" that really works is dramatically cutting down on the amount you eat, i.e. calories and eating the right foods.

We know this becuase the only really large detailed study of this effect was uin Cuba when they went through a severe deceline after the USSR fell. Because they have excellent medical doctors there, an in depth study was made and the results were dramatic.

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The economic meltdown should logically have been a public health disaster. But a new study conducted jointly by university researchers in Spain, Cuba, and the U.S. and published in the latest issue of BMJ says that the health of Cubans actually improved dramatically during the years of austerity. These surprising findings are based on nationwide statistics from the Cuban Ministry of Public Health, together with surveys conducted with about 6,000 participants in the city of Cienfuegos, on the southern coast of Cuba, between 1991 and 2011. The data showed that, during the period of the economic crisis, deaths from cardiovascular disease and adult-onset type 2 diabetes fell by a third and a half, respectively. Strokes declined more modestly, and overall mortality rates went down.

This "abrupt downward trend" in illness does not appear to be because of Cuba's barefoot doctors and vaunted public health system, which is rated amongst the best in Latin America. The researchers say that it has more to do with simple weight loss. Cubans, who were walking and bicycling more after their public transportation system collapsed, and eating less (energy intake plunged from about 3,000 calories per day to anywhere between 1,400 and 2,400, and protein consumption dropped by 40 percent). They lost an average of 12 pounds.


It wasn't only the amount of food that Cubans ate that changed, but also what they ate. They became virtual vegans overnight, as meat and dairy products all but vanished from the marketplace. People were forced to depend on what they could grow, catch, and pick for themselves-- including lots of high-fiber fresh produce, and fruits, added to the increasingly hard-to-come-by staples of beans, corn, and rice. Moreover, with petroleum and petroleum-based agro-chemicals unavailable, Cuba "went green," becoming the first nation to successfully experiment on a large scale with low-input sustainable agriculture techniques. Farmers returned to the machetes and oxen-drawn plows of their ancestors, and hundreds of urban community gardens (the latest rage in America's cities) flourished.
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The only "diet" that really works is dramatically cutting down on the amount you eat, i.e. calories and eating the right foods.

We know this becuase the only really large detailed study of this effect was uin Cuba when they went through a severe deceline after the USSR fell. Because they have excellent medical doctors there, an in depth study was made and the results were dramatic.



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Wow. Thatís really interesting.
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CICO is a pretty well established principle. People just over complicate weight loss/muscle gain because trends. The science and therefore process of losing weight and/or gaining muscle is super simple, although it may not be easy to achieve because of commitment and follow through.

Ironically one of the only advertised weight loss programs that actually works is Weight Watchers (because it's glorified calorie counting) yet it's been pushed away by the current generation as their 'grandma's outdated weight loss program' and replaced with ridiculous, ineffective Facebook meme diets (ie. juice cleanses).
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My issue with strictly CICO is that it doesn't take into account the way your body reacts to the food you eat.

Does anyone want to dispute you'll get better results eating 2000 calories of heathy fats, lean meats, veggies and fruits vs 2000 calories of donuts and Pop tarts?

My experience is that if you're eating the right foods and excercising counting calories isn't remotely as necessary.
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My issue with strictly CICO is that it doesn't take into account the way your body reacts to the food you eat.

Does anyone want to dispute you'll get better results eating 2000 calories of heathy fats, lean meats, veggies and fruits vs 2000 calories of donuts and Pop tarts?

My experience is that if you're eating the right foods and excercising counting calories isn't remotely as necessary.
That's not universal though. Different bodies respond to foods differently, BUT if you're actually overweight then CICO is always going to work up to a point. Eventually yes if you want to get into legit lean body fat percentages (let's say 10-13% for men) then you'll perhaps need to adjust your food selection (depending on your body), but if you're at 25% body fat then no it doesn't matter at all what you're eating as long as you're eating less of it.

The reason you've found you don't need to count calories as much when eating 'better' foods is because those foods are inherently lower in calories. You're eating a lower calorie diet without trying to do so. Plus if you're exercising then you're increasing your calories burned so you have more room to eat without gaining fat. In the end it's still the calories that matter. It's science lol - proven multiple times over.
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I understand what you're saying Moose. From a practical standpoint, if you're not changing what you eat as wellas how much of it you eat, it's incredibly unlikely you'll manage to stick to your calorie count no matter how disciplined you are. I'm of course assuming if you're that fat it's a result of eating a typical Western diet composed of mostly sugar, carbs, and processed foods. I'm also assuming that like everyone who counts calories, you aren't nearly as good at it as you like to think you (and the science backs that up).

You also have to take in to account the way your body reacts to the foods you eat. Sugar specifically is poison. I don't think that's hyperbole when you look into the impact it has on your endocrine system and all of the chronic health diseases it's responsible for.

So could you theoretically lose weight eating 2000 calories of sugar packets? Sure. But you're still gonna feel like shit, probably contract diabetes, and still have a heart attack.

Thing is, for most people if you're eating what you're supposed to eat and working out on a regular basis, you really don't need to count calories.
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By the way moose, Weight Watcher's kinda takes what I'm saying in to account by the way they assign points to certain foods.

Eggs for example are zero point foods. So theoretically you could take in thousands of calories of eggs a day on WW and still be in compliance

Good luck with that though.
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I understand what you're saying Moose. From a practical standpoint, if you're not changing what you eat as wellas how much of it you eat, it's incredibly unlikely you'll manage to stick to your calorie count no matter how disciplined you are. I'm of course assuming if you're that fat it's a result of eating a typical Western diet composed of mostly sugar, carbs, and processed foods. I'm also assuming that like everyone who counts calories, you aren't nearly as good at it as you like to think you (and the science backs that up).



You also have to take in to account the way your body reacts to the foods you eat. Sugar specifically is poison. I don't think that's hyperbole when you look into the impact it has on your endocrine system and all of the chronic health diseases it's responsible for.



So could you theoretically lose weight eating 2000 calories of sugar packets? Sure. But you're still gonna feel like shit, probably contract diabetes, and still have a heart attack.



Thing is, for most people if you're eating what you're supposed to eat and working out on a regular basis, you really don't need to count calories.


For sure but what youíre talking about is general health. My original comment related to CICO was strictly related to weight and body fat management. Itís entirely possible to be lean and unhealthy using something like CICO. Low body fat doesnít necessarily translate to health, so obviously CICO isnít mean to address all health concerns. But it can and will be the most effective tool for controlling weight and body composition.

Thereís a reason why pro bodybuilding (and powerlifers during cuts) almost always track their food. Some may be more precise than others and long time vets may not count in calories but have experience and knowledge to know how much food they need to eat each day to achieve their current goals. CICO is the foundation of almost any diet regime used by these guys, and it allows them to drop and gain double digits in weight multiple times during the year, at will. Iíve done it myself multiple times as well. Thereís a reason they do it and given itís basically their jobs to control their body weight, Iím keen to trust their results.

Now obviously thatís a bit different than your average Joe just wanting to sit in a healthy body fat range (letís say 12-16% for men). To achieve that he may just need to do some trial and error with food intake and will eventually find the balance to maintain that range, assuming heís already in it. If heís overweight then heíll need to shed fat and for that CICO is the obvious answer. Same with if he chooses to bulk.

I donít disagree with you at all regarding the limitations of CICO. What you eat can have a tremendous effect on how you feel and your overall health. But if we are talking strictly about weight loss/gain, the most important factor is CICO. You can do a lot of other things right but if you get CICO wrong and are eating at maintenance when you planned for a deficit (for example) you simply wonít hit your goals. If Iím are eating at a surplus, I simply canít lose weight/fat. Science is a bitch sometimes.


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A friend did WW and it was a lot of changing numbers based on what physical activities you do. There was a baseline number of points but if you ran 5 miles you were given "X" number of points to add to your baseline number.

She did it to be able to enjoy a real meal during the day, not dinner.

Certain veggies were basically no points but they would fill you up, I think broccoli was one she could eat with no issues, I really didn't pay full attention to her diet.
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A friend did WW and it was a lot of changing numbers based on what physical activities you do. There was a baseline number of points but if you ran 5 miles you were given "X" number of points to add to your baseline number.

She did it to be able to enjoy a real meal during the day, not dinner.

Certain veggies were basically no points but they would fill you up, I think broccoli was one she could eat with no issues, I really didn't pay full attention to her diet.
Hey. This may be perfect. All my life I've felt intuitively that eating broccoli is pointless.

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I am talking about general health Moose, but I'm also talking about weight loss.

If you focus only on calories you won't achieve the same weight loss results as you would if you focused on where those calories come from.

Sugar specifically for a couple reasons. First, intake of high carb/ high sugar foods causes your body to crave more of that. It's a hormonal response that was a biological adaptation for most of human existence when high sugar foods weren't in high supply and calories mattered so when you found some, you should eat as much as you could.

That's why it's super easy to crush a whole bag of Doritos even if you're not hungry.

If you read any of the literature on how effective people are at accurately counting the number of calories they intake, you'll get super skeptical hippo eyes about if those 2000 calories you think you took in was actually 2000 calories. We're pretty universally terrible at it.

The cool thing though, is if you're eating what you're supposed to instead of garbage, it's almost impossible to over eat. Conversely, if you're eating garbage, it's nearly impossible not to over eat. That's why I'm saying if you want to lose weight it's more important to focus on what you're eating instead of how much you're eating.

If you're eating the right things, how much of it you're eating kinda takes care of itself.

Again, try eating 3k calories with just eggs. Good luck with that. (FYI, that's about 42 eggs a day)
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