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Old 08-04-2019, 12:26 PM   #1
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Do you Believe in Bigfoot ?

I gotta admit that this is a topic that's intrigued me for many years. There are now just so many videos relating to this that I find myself spending countless hours watching usually late at night when I'm bored but are so fascinating.

I'm wondering what your opinions are on if they exist or not. This guy has lots of great hunting stories to tell as he is a professional hunting guide and several Sasquatch encounters if you like this type of thing.

Here you go.

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Bigfoot? Really? No.


I scanned through, watched less than a minute.



So, a guide has a story? That, my friend, is part of the job.
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I gotta admit that this is a topic that's intrigued me for many years. There are now just so many videos relating to this that I find myself spending countless hours watching usually late at night when I'm bored but are so fascinating.

I'm wondering what your opinions are on if they exist or not. This guy has lots of great hunting stories to tell as he is a professional hunting guide and several Sasquatch encounters if you like this type of thing.

Here you go.

I knew you were pretty stoopid, but THIS stoopid?
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I knew you were pretty stoopid, but THIS stoopid?
I think its an interesting subject. Just because you don't believe doesn't mean you are right. Doesn't mean you are wrong . Pretty sure, well I'm positive, you don't know everything. Nor do I.
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Bigfoot.... no :eyeroll:

Abominable Snowman... sure, why not
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Old 08-04-2019, 06:19 PM   #8
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I think its an interesting subject. Just because you don't believe doesn't mean you are right. Doesn't mean you are wrong . Pretty sure, well I'm positive, you don't know everything. Nor do I.
To quote the philosopher Sagan, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

I recognize that large fauna can exist without being known to science.

The Saola is native to Vietnam and Laos, is a relative of antelopes and wasn't confirmed to exist until 1992.

So one cannot say it is impossible that a large unknown animal could be living in the forests of North America, but the probability for Bigfoot is very low.

The primary problem that if Bigfoot existed, it would be a species of unknown hominid.

There is only one hominid species know to inhabit the Americas, that would be us.

All other primates are monkeys, specifically "New World" monkeys, which is evolutionary distinct from "Old World" monkeys.

So the question becomes, how could this one species of hominid get here (outside of humans) and no others did?

Humans are thought to only have migrated here in the last 15 to 20,000 years, and there is plenty of fossil evidence of humans in Asia, Africa, and Europe prior to that.

If Bigfoot is an unknown Hominid species, where is all the fossil evidence for it in Africa, Asia, or Europe?

Have people seen things in the forest that they can't immediately explain?

I'm sure they have.

But that doesn't "prove" that they saw Bigfoot.

Humans are hardwired to find patterns and fit things in categories.

Think about it. People look at clouds and see shapes of animals, people, etc. People see Elvis, Jesus, Mary, etc. in their toast, the stain on a wall, the bark of a tree, etc.

We do this fore a very good reason.

The little primate very much in the before time that spotted the pattern of the lion in the grass lived to breed more little primates. The one that didn't, was lunch.

By the same token, putting things in categories helps stay alive as well. recognizing something is only half the step to escaping the lion, knowing what to do matters more.

So you have to categorize things, to know which patterns mean you found lunch, vs those that mean you are lunch.

IMHO, this hardwiring is responsible for the vast majority of conspiracy theories, beliefs in ancient aliens, UFO, paranormal, etc.

Yes, there may be an incident here or there that may warrant being investigated as a legitimate phenomena/event, but the vast majority are pattern matching and categorization run amok.

Take UFO's as an example.

OK, let's assume that there is a completely inexplicable sighting of something in the air.

Then by definition, it is an "unidentified flying object".

So how did that mean that it is a flying saucer filled with space aliens?

That is the sole possible explanation for something we don't know what it is?

That's because we are hardwired to put it in a category. "Unknown" just doesn't cut it.

BTW, IMHO, most of the "inexplicable" UFO signings could well be Ball Lightning.

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I'm wondering what your opinions are on if they exist or not. This guy has lots of great hunting stories to tell as he is a professional hunting guide and several Sasquatch encounters if you like this type of thing.
Thanks HogFarmer. We don't know everything about this planet or environment.

For instance, this monster cave was just discovered last year in an extremely remote area of Wells Gray Provincial Park in British Columbia:

https://globalnews.ca/video/4721329/...cave-discovery
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No.


If stories are all you have, you have nothing.


The idea that a large population of unknown hominid could be roaming around without a dead body or bones ever being found is ridiculous. Not a single one has ever been shot by a human, or simply found dead? Every time someone claims they have something, it turns out to be a likely hoax (like footprint impressions) or something else (like a hair sample which ends up being from a bison or something).


Get me a corpse, and we'll talk. Until then, forget it.
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If stories are all you have, you have nothing.


The idea that a large population of unknown hominid could be roaming around without a dead body or bones ever being found is ridiculous. Not a single one has ever been shot by a human, or simply found dead? Every time someone claims they have something, it turns out to be a likely hoax (like footprint impressions) or something else (like a hair sample which ends up being from a bison or something).


Get me a corpse, and we'll talk. Until then, forget it.
I've always believed that the bigfoot film footage was shot on the same sound stage as the lunar landings.

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I've always believed that the bigfoot film footage was shot on the same sound stage as the lunar landings.

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In a way it was. The guy that was wearing the suit copped to it years ago.
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I gotta admit that this is a topic that's intrigued me for many years. There are now just so many videos relating to this that I find myself spending countless hours watching usually late at night when I'm bored but are so fascinating.

I'm wondering what your opinions are on if they exist or not. This guy has lots of great hunting stories to tell as he is a professional hunting guide and several Sasquatch encounters if you like this type of thing.

Here you go.


I'm very interested in the topic and the stories from the guy you linked are generally excellent. I've listened to a bunch of them.

Certain pieces of evidence are really hard to dismiss scientifically. I'd mention the studies of primatologist Dr. Jeff Meldrum ( U of Idaho) who has discovered tiny dermal ridges in print casts that run lengthwise along the foot which unheard of in nature. He has found this in casts from all over the world and it would be impossible to fake. So.....why do they exist?

I don't know if you've seen it, but the Todd Standing films shown on Survivorman (with Les Stroud) are really intriguing. Fucking weird close ups of two alleged sasquatch faces looking straight into his camera.

Also, some of the footage from a recent show called "Paranormal: Caught on Camera on the Travel Channel. One (can't find a link) showed a clip of a beast that was so improbably enormous through the chest and shoulders that I don't believe it could be a human in a suit. You have to see the clip to understand what I'm saying. It's better than the Patterson film.

So many stories from so many cultures all over the world all saying the same thing. At very least it is one hell of a mystery.
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It's no more mysterious than other stories about other cryptids in other places. The explanation most likely rests in the human brain, not outside it.


Once a supposed phenomenon grows to the point where notoriety/money can be had, you really can't trust very much of what you hear or see from "witnesses". Including alleged photos, recordings or secondary artefacts.


Hoax is the preferred explanation until shown otherwise.



Again, get me a corpse. Until then you're wasting my time.
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