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Old 02-08-2019, 11:45 AM   #16
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Wait....

Do you guys not understand how smart devices work? Serious question.

EDIT: The answer is cloud computing.

Smart devices transmit to the cloud, the cloud computes, and sends back to the smart device the proper instruction.

What data goes to the cloud, is not your property, it belongs to whomever owns the cloud.

So, when you have your Amazon Alexa, or your smart microwave...it is always listening. If you are talking, or watching porn, or whatever, it records the data, sends it to the cloud. Whether you are addressing it or not, it is always listening. That's how it knows when you address it....it's listening. That's how it learns your voice, and your inflections and intonations....and the little device on your end table isn't doing that. The cloud does the computing, the learning, the listening.

That's why if you are talking with your wife about going on a ski trip, and never address your smart devices, you will get spammed with ski advertisements. Always on, always listening, always transmitting to the cloud.

EDIT: Maybe this will help, but if you really want to understand who Bezos is, you have to research the Vault 7 leaks.

https://wikileaks.org//amazon-atlas/...s/#AmazonAtlas

Here is a list of Amazon server locations, most of which are not under the name of "Amazon" so they can't be traced back to AWS...

While a few are publicly tied to Amazon, this is the exception rather than the norm. More often, Amazon operates out of data centers owned by other companies with little indication that Amazon itself is based there too or runs its own data centers under less-identifiable subsidiaries such as VaData, Inc. In some cases, Amazon uses pseudonyms to obscure its presence. For example, at its IAD77 data center, the document states that “Amazon is known as ‘Vandalay Industries’ on badges and all correspondence with building manager”.

https://wikileaks.org//amazon-atlas/...18/#pagination

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Old 02-08-2019, 01:12 PM   #18
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Well, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him actually read the links....

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Old 02-08-2019, 01:29 PM   #19
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I had a long, brutally honest conversation with my microwave and it assures me that it isn't spying on me.

I don't know why, but I believe him.
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So I assume when you guys talk about being concerned about the relationship between government and corporations, this is what you're talking about right?
Man, is that all you got out of what I posted? And how did I earn a "you guys" label (what guys BTW? I am not a Trump supporter. I tend not to subscribe to conspiracy theories)?

And the politics aside, while I don't like either I can discern a difference between a guy like Pecker(head)/AMI and Jeff Bezos/Amazon, the first a guy who has a net worth of 12 million bucks and runs a heavily indebted and leveraged tabloid media company and the other is the richest man in the world with a net worth of 135 billion dollars who runs a company valued over 1 trillion dollars which with just the value of it's government contracts could buy Pecker's company dozens of times over.
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Which part?

This is my favorite part of the above article...

But what if we were to take Conway not literally, but seriously? Asked whether a microwave could be turned into not a camera, specifically, but a listening device, Stephen Frasier, a microwave imaging and radar researcher at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, let out several seconds of sustained laughter.

"Unless itís a voice-activated microwave oven connected to the internet I canít think of a way," says Frasier. Outside of a failed smart microwave Kickstarter, no microphone-equipped microwaves appear to exist.


Apparently, the dude didn't check Amazon, because the one I linked is Gen 3.
The article you posted is from March 2017. Amazon didn't release their microwave until late 2018. 3rd Generation refers to the Echo Dot that comes with it.

I think we all know smart devices are connected to the cloud. The mockery is from the idea that a non-smart microwave could be used for spying.
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I think the mockery is coming from people loving their smart devices too much to acknowledge how dangerous they are, much like Facebook or "23 and Me".

The Greatest Lie of the 21st century is "Big Data is Our Friend", but people want to believe it too badly to entertain any skepticism.
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Amazon is far from the only company connected to the gubmint. Google. Flakebook. Walmart. GM.

Just wait till 5G is truly here...ugh. It will take a few years until it's fully deployed.
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So, I have been following this a bit on another political forum and the progressive brain trust over there thought it was some nefarious hack committed by Russian Hackers (what can't they do?) on Trump's behalf...instead it turns out it was Sanchez's brother lol.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...d5g?li=BBnb7Kz

The Pecker still needs to answer to possible blackmail/extortion but there are dueling opinions whether what he did amounts to that.
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So, I have been following this a bit on another political forum and the progressive brain trust over there thought it was some nefarious hack committed by Russian Hackers (what can't they do?) on Trump's behalf...instead it turns out it was Sanchez's brother lol.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...d5g?li=BBnb7Kz

The Pecker still needs to answer to possible blackmail/extortion but there are dueling opinions whether what he did amounts to that.
"The investigation conducted for Bezos is over and the results will be turned over to law enforcement, de Becker told the Daily Beast Sunday."

That's all that is needed. Whatever Bezos says, that will be "the facts of the case", and however Bezos wants it handled by law enforcement, that is how it will be handled.

Pecker and Sanchez will likely be bankrupted, at the very least, if not jailed.

Bezos is untouchable. Pecker and Sanchez are morons.
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"The investigation conducted for Bezos is over and the results will be turned over to law enforcement, de Becker told the Daily Beast Sunday."

That's all that is needed. Whatever Bezos says, that will be "the facts of the case", and however Bezos wants it handled by law enforcement, that is how it will be handled.

Pecker and Sanchez will likely be bankrupted, at the very least, if not jailed.

Bezos is untouchable. Pecker and Sanchez are morons.
Of course you could be right, Pecker couldn't pick a worse target to feck with. And AMI is leveraged to the hilt financially, so putting them under wouldn't take a herculean effort. All this said it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Bezos has the power and influence on lockdown, but I never underestimate the slipperiness of tabloid journalists.
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Of course you could be right, Pecker couldn't pick a worse target to feck with. And AMI is leveraged to the hilt financially, so putting them under wouldn't take a herculean effort. All this said it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Bezos has the power and influence on lockdown, but I never underestimate the slipperiness of tabloid journalists.
Maybe if Pecker opens up the Trump Catch and Kill safe, Bezos won't destroy him...as badly


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I don't mean to be ignorant but I don't understand the reference.
The NE allegedly has been picking up negative stories on Trump and "vaulting" them so to speak so they never see the light of day.

I make no claims to the factuality of that, but that's what the reference is.
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