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Old 06-29-2018, 10:52 AM   #76
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My guess would be the zero of the four on that list will run. Imo, the only wild card would be Warren, and I don't think she's interest, tbh.
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My guess would be the zero of the four on that list will run. Imo, the only wild card would be Warren, and I don't think she's interest, tbh.
Really? Seems to me Warren has been running since the day she got elected. She does everything possible to publicize her name nationally, while at the same time doing very little in the way of actual legislating, especially for Massachusetts.

Liz Warren is porimarily interested in getting her name in national media, and has been since day one.

Warren's primary problem is that the party is not particuarly fond of her. She butted heads with some party leaders early on, got slapped down a couple of times, and has been trying to ingratiate herself ever since....I can't speak to whether she has succeeded or not.

As for Biden...he's running...no doubt about it, unless health or family issues prevent him. If for no other reason, he will run to make a bunch of money before he retires.
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:22 AM   #78
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Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton Lead 2020 Presidential Democratic Field: Poll

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Biden leads 2020 Dem field in new poll

Almost one-third of registered Democratic voters back former Vice President Joe Biden for the party’s 2020 presidential nomination, making him the front-runner in a new poll provided exclusively to The Hill.

Biden is the clear leader in Harvard CAPS/Harris’s June poll with support from 32 percent of Democrats polled. Hillary Clinton, the party’s 2016 nominee, finished second with 18 percent of the vote, while her 2016 primary opponent, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), sits in third with 16 percent.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) was the only other candidate to poll in double digits, with 10 percent of those surveyed backing her.

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That's your field.

Biden
Clinton
Warren
Sanders

Have fun storming the castle with that crew.

Now....a lot can and will change between now and 2020, so these polls don't mean much, but the fact that we are halfway through 2018, 4 months to mid terms, and the polls are still showing the the Holy Trinity of Neoliberal dinosaurs as the party's frontrunners for 2020 would be very, very concerning to me if I were a democrat.

As a libertarian, I actually want a progressive, traditionally left democrat party. Fucking neoliberals and neocons are the same thing. I want my pro-free speech, pro-privacy, anti-establishment, anti-Wall Street, anti-war democrats back. Do they even exist any more? It's not in the fucking clowns you have running your party right now, that's for sure.

If it takes a new socialist party to put a stake in the heart of these DNC vampires, then count me in. I like the socialists a whole lot better than I like the neoliberals. At least there are some areas of life the socialists are pro liberty about, unlike the neoliberals.

Hell, I was considering voting for Bernie myself. He's an economic moron, but he's right about a lot of things and light years better than Hillary.

In 2002 at this point, Gore would have led that poll, in 1990 Mario Cuomo would have been leading, in 1986 Gary Hart would have led and Dukakis wouldn't be registering yet, in 1974 Carter wouldn't be registering yet, in 2006 Obama would have barely registered, way behind Hillary & Edwards. 2016 was a rare year where Hillary was the presumptive nominee for years beforehand.

Most people don't follow politics very closely and these polls are more about name recognition at this point. Hillary won't run again. When the primary race actually begins, some other candidates will pick up steam. It could be Biden or Warren, but they're going to have lots of competition.
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Really? Seems to me Warren has been running since the day she got elected. She does everything possible to publicize her name nationally, while at the same time doing very little in the way of actual legislating, especially for Massachusetts.

Liz Warren is porimarily interested in getting her name in national media, and has been since day one.

Warren's primary problem is that the party is not particuarly fond of her. She butted heads with some party leaders early on, got slapped down a couple of times, and has been trying to ingratiate herself ever since....I can't speak to whether she has succeeded or not.

As for Biden...he's running...no doubt about it, unless health or family issues prevent him. If for no other reason, he will run to make a bunch of money before he retires.
I just don't see it from her. I think she's plenty happy where she's at, just keeping doing what she's doing.

And Biden will be 78 years old.
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So, in case anyone missed it, one of the big stories this weekend is that Hillary is signalling that she will be running in 2020, this signal being sent by her PAC and fundraising email campaign.

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So, in case anyone missed it, one of the big stories this weekend is that Hillary is signalling that she will be running in 2020, this signal being sent by her PAC and fundraising email campaign.

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I told you people she wouldn't go away.

If there's anything the past 40 years should have told us it's that Clinton's don't take no for an answer.
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So, in case anyone missed it, one of the big stories this weekend is that Hillary is signalling that she will be running in 2020, this signal being sent by her PAC and fundraising email campaign.
From what I am reading today, seems to me she would be thrilled with last night's SC nomination then...
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If Hillary were to be the nominee, I will definitely vote 3rd party, the naked Libertarian guy is preferable to HillDawg.

That ship has sailed.
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Hillary in 2020 might be the motivation I need to say fuck it, go full nihilist, and vote for Trump to burn this motherfucker down.
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Wouldn't that make Hillary 2020 a designated Russian plot?
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Wouldn't that make Hillary 2020 a designated Russian plot?
It would be definitive evidence that life is meaningless and should be extinguished from the planet.

Hence it is only rational to vote Trump to speed that process up.
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It would be definitive evidence that life is meaningless and should be extinguished from the planet.

Hence it is only rational to vote Trump to speed that process up.
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