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Old 09-01-2017, 09:03 AM   #151
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Well, let me put it this way.

I would burn hundreds of American flags to save a single Gadsden flag.

One represents government, the other represents the Republic.
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Old 09-01-2017, 09:03 AM   #152
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Wow.

So, Benjamin Franklin, Paul Revere, the Marines, The Navy, and the Continental Congress are now symbols of southern rednecks.

I don't even know what to say. Misinformed, ignorant notions and perceptions don't change what the flag is and represents.

That is just appalling.

EDIT: I suppose I should thank you guys for proving my thesis better than I ever could.
Like anything, what symbols represent changes over time.
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Old 09-01-2017, 09:05 AM   #153
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Well, let me put it this way.

I would burn hundreds of American flags to save a single Gadsden flag.

One represents government, the other represents the Republic.
Thanks, this helps explain why you are reading so much more into the cartoon than what is really there.
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Old 09-01-2017, 09:52 AM   #154
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Thanks, this helps explain why you are reading so much more into the cartoon than what is really there.
I think the cartoon represents what the average neoliberal thinks, but doesn't want to say.
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I think my point is that anyone who allows the incorrect message that a revolutionary war flag is somehow a racist flag, when the words on the flag itself are defensive in nature, really are just flinging sh*t at the wall and whatever sticks is the new message.
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Old 09-01-2017, 10:09 AM   #156
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I think the cartoon represents what the average neoliberal thinks, but doesn't want to say.
What, that giving the god who apparently sent the hurricane credit for aid provided by humans is silly? Are you suggesting all liberals are atheists?
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Old 09-01-2017, 10:18 AM   #157
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What, that giving the god who apparently sent the hurricane credit for aid provided by humans is silly? Are you suggesting all liberals are atheists?
Right, because...everyone wears confederate flag shirts. Nothing unusual there. I see it in Cambridge all the time.
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Old 09-01-2017, 10:21 AM   #158
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Right, because...everyone wears confederate flag shirts. Nothing unusual there. I see it in Cambridge all the time.
This response doesn't relate to my comment in any way. Can you please tell me what it is that "neoliberals" supposedly think but don't say?
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I'm reminded of a joke that a priest gave in a homily when I was a kid:


A rescue boat came to a man's house during a flood when the waters were up to the first floor of his house. The rescuers told the man to get in. He replied: "I have no need for your boat, for I have faith that God will save me."

The next day, another rescue boat came to the man's house when the flood waters were up to the second floor. The rescuers told the man to get in. Again, he replied: "I have no need for your boat, for I have faith that God will save me."

The next day, a helicopter came to the man's house when the flood waters were up to the roof. The rescuers told the man to get in. Yet again, he declined, saying: "I have no need for your helicopter, for I have faith that God will save me."

The next day, the flood waters overcame the man's roof, and he was washed away and drowned. When he got to heaven, he approached God in a very confused state and said: "Lord, my faith in you was strong. Why didn't you save me?"

God replied: "What are you talking about? I sent you two boats and a helicopter."
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I think the cartoon represents what the average neoliberal thinks, but doesn't want to say.
Welcome to "flyover country."
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This response doesn't relate to my comment in any way. Can you please tell me what it is that "neoliberals" supposedly think but don't say?
Remove the word bubbles from the picture altogether. Does the picture still say anything?

Next, remove the helicopter and rescuers. Does the picture still say anything?
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This response doesn't relate to my comment in any way. Can you please tell me what it is that "neoliberals" supposedly think but don't say?
That everyone who doesn't live in a blue state on the coast is a racist, inbred, backwards moron. Like we're all living barefoot in mudhuts with no electricity drilling holes in people's heads to let the evil spirits escape.

You may choose to zero in on a single aspect of the cartoon but I promise you everyone who has to put up with the flyover country moniker will immediately recognize every bullshit trope about where we live and get pissed off about it, especially when the people being made fun are literally underwater.
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Remove the word bubbles from the picture altogether. Does the picture still say anything?

Next, remove the helicopter and rescuers. Does the picture still say anything?


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That everyone who doesn't live in a blue state on the coast is a racist, inbred, backwards moron. Like we're all living barefoot in mudhuts with no electricity drilling holes in people's heads to let the evil spirits escape.

You may choose to zero in on a single aspect of the cartoon but I promise you everyone who has to put up with the flyover country moniker will immediately recognize every bullshit trope about where we live and get pissed off about it, especially when the people being made fun are literally underwater.
If that was what it was saying, I'd be upset too. But it isn't.

There is no indication that the cartoonist thinks everyone fits that stereotype. Instead, it utilizes the stereotype because those people tend to be extremely religious and are likely to be saying this kind of stuff in this circumstance.

The focus of the mockery is the mindset, nothing more.

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My signature is now officially a monument to Jaric.

Os is clearly viewing the cartoon from the perspective of oppressor, while Jaric views it from the perspective of the oppressed.
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If you draw a cartoon with black people holding buckets of fried chicken, watermelons, food stamps hanging out of their pocket, and hot sauce, does it really matter what the words say?
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