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Old 03-30-2020, 10:41 AM   #691
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Belichick does more social media than me. This is my extent.

But I will add that to my Netflix list.
I'll copy/paste it in a PM for you and bravo for that!

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Most people today just do what they are told, and believe what they are told to believe, from the media, especially. Propaganda works, or it wouldn't be a thing.

At any rate, I'm 100% with you on the Surveillance State, which is another thing people aren't just passive about, they are enthususiastic about being surveilled 24/7, they love it. They can't wait to be tracked, and listened to, and watched in their cars, in their living rooms, in their bedrooms. Hell, they even give personal surveillance devices to one another as gifts.

Sheeple often mock me on these boards when I call them sheeple. But, Alexa proves my point. "Right, Alexa?"

So, I fully understand and support you and your gf in that train of thought. It's refreshing to find a couple such as yourselves with a healthy skepticism and sense of the importance of privacy.

I'll tell you...I from time to time make 1984 references, but I never dreamed...I am stunned, at how the Home Monitoring devices actually got into our homes...not through some government mandate or anything like that...but as a toy! I mean.....Holy Shit....Americans just leaped right into 1984 without looking, no hesitation.

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Yes! Like people in Tennesse and Missouri begging their governments to shut everything down? People LOVE to be tracked. They tag everywhere they go and everyone their with. Ugh!! Facepalm to the nth degree!



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I'm not leaving.

There is realistically no place to go that isn't already more socialist and less freedom than in America.

We still have 2A. That is the last line of defense. That is the Constitutional Right of Americans to say "This far, and no further". Even if we are the minority, we only require 3% of the population.
I'm thinking, like me, he isn't wanting to leave the USA< just the flocks of Sheeple ( A term I also use often)

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No. Still stay in America. Just go remote. Off grid. Off societyís map.

No Alexa in my house. Iíll pull whatever I want up myself. Audible requests are not even remotely on my wish list.
See?? We can agree on the most important things! No friggin Alexa here, either.
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Syncs perfectly with your eight track cassette player.

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Technology takes a while to get to Alaska. The bald eagle flying it there can only carry so much. Probably still using Nextel’s and cb radios. .
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Technology takes a while to get to Alaska. The bald eagle flying it there can only carry so much. Probably still using Nextelís and cb radios. .
That eagle can grab a 25 lb salmon in flight.

Better than the silly Amazon drones.
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Old 03-30-2020, 11:25 AM   #694
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Syncs perfectly with your eight track cassette player.

Cheers, BostonTim

Lol......I havenít had an 8 track since the mid 80ís but we do still have a cassette player laying around here somewhere.

Whatís funny is people are starting to get back into playing vinyl.


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Old 03-30-2020, 11:27 AM   #695
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That eagle can grab a 25 lb salmon in flight.

Better than the silly Amazon drones.

Cats and small dogs too.


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Old 03-30-2020, 01:24 PM   #697
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I have a few family members in the medical field in various positions.

Latest projections for the USA is about 85,000 deaths, and the spread to plateau right about Memorial Day and into June.

Wide, wide margin of error, though.
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Dr. Anthony Fauci, the longtime director for the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and emerging face of American leadership in the fight against the virus, estimated that the U.S. may see between 100,000 and 200,000 deaths from COVID-19, the deadly disease caused by the novel coronavirus. A deeply-respected authority on viral diseases, Fauci assisted in guiding the federal response to SARS, MERS, Ebola and now the novel coronavirus.

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There is no intellectual argument that supports the Trump presidency. Not one. He's done nothing for you. Not one thing, unless you're in the minority percentage that saw a benefit from his tax program.
I agree the man is a 1st class con artist.
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There is no intellectual argument that supports the Trump presidency. Not one. He's done nothing for you. Not one thing, unless you're in the minority percentage that saw a benefit from his tax program.
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I can attest to that, an eagle tried to grab a small dog near my friends place in Maine. He actually got it but didn't hang on and dropped the poor thing about 20 feet.

Dog recovered.
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Old 03-30-2020, 06:06 PM   #703
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Fauci thinks between 100,000 and 200,000 Americans alone will die because of this.
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No he said that there are models that predict that.

Without knowing what assumptions and input went into those models, one cannot judge how much credibility to put on that result.

For example, what is the presumed mortality rate?

Is it the 1 to 4% #'s we keep hearing which are based on dividing the number of dead by those tested positive for the virus?

We know with absolute certainty that the number of infected exceeds the number of positive test results. No one knows by how much.

So if they use the 1 to 4% #, they are reporting absolute bullshit, if they use something less, what is their basis for the alternative #?

There are plenty of arguments about how to estimate the total infected population beyond the positive test cases, so without knowing how they came up with their value one can't tell how credible it is.

Also, how do they differentiate the present death total between dying with the virus and from the virus, as an earlier post I made described.

Look I've done computer modeling as part of my job since we used stone knives and bear skins in the before time to do it. I know how one has to understand the limitations and uncertainty of the input data as well as the fidelity of the equations used to actually represent reality.

So without knowing how the model works, I'm reserving any judgement on how accurate it may be or simply a SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess)

He also said this.
ďI just donít think that we really need to make a projection when itís such a moving target, that you could so easily be wrong,"
Seems he has some questions as to the validity of the model.
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Letís be honest. Impeachment hurt Trumpís response to coronavirus.

By Henry Olsen
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March 23, 2020 at 4:37 p.m. EDT

President Trump has been roundly criticized for allegedly failing to prepare for the coronavirus crisis before it arrived in the United States. Those critics conveniently overlook something else that could have been distracting the presidentís attention during that crucial period: impeachment.

It seems forever ago, but Trumpís impeachment was the major story in January and early February ó the same time that disease was forcing China to lock down cities. Despite the near certainty that Republicans would not vote to convict the president, Democrats and most of the major media were almost entirely focused on impeachment. As a result, the White House was focused on addressing this threat to its survival, not on preparing for a threat from China that might never even materialize.

Trumpís efforts to prepare the nation for this pandemic has been far from perfect, but the one thing the president did do to stop the virusís spread to the United States during that period ó stopping air travel from China ó was heavily criticized. Even former vice president Joe Biden criticized the presidentís ban as ďhysterical xenophobia.Ē At the time, partisan vituperation had reached a fever pitch because of impeachment. Given that impeachment managers were regularly calling Trump a king or incipient dictator, a more forceful response against the virus in January or early February likely wouldnít have gone over well.

In fact, the situation could be even worse today had the Democrats gotten their way. Imagine if Republicans had buckled under the pressure and backed the Democratic move to subpoena witnesses. The Senate would have spent most of February interviewing witnesses in depositions and probably fighting in court to force recalcitrant witnesses to testify. Itís extremely unlikely that the matter would have been over by the end of the month, yet the markets started to decline on Feb. 24 as it became clear that Europe and the United States would not avoid the virusís spread. Would the House Democrats have suspended their attempt to remove the president at this crucial time, or would they have redoubled their efforts instead?

Impeachmentís lingering stain is damaging the country even today. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the president have not spoken during this crisis, nor will they. Their hatred is deep and mutual, and impeachment made their breach irreparable.

The fact is that nearly four years of irrational Trump hatred has brought us to the point where any action he takes is subject to criticism. Had he acted decisively in February when he had time, many surely would have accused him of manufacturing a crisis to distract the public from impeachment. Now that we are suffering from that monthís relative inaction, he is attacked for failing to act in advance. Damned if he does, damned if he doesnít.

This latter point gets overlooked in the discussion over Trumpís purported failures. No European leader stockpiled covid-19 tests or ordered ventilators and masks in preparation for the worst. Yes, Trump might have played down the crisis in rhetoric, but when it comes to actual policy, the sainted Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau prepared his country no better than Trump prepared the United States. The rational analyst sees these facts and notes that it is extraordinarily difficult for politicians to foresee an event unprecedented in modern times and act accordingly. But Trump-phobia, of which impeachment was only the most obvious symptom, prevents too many from seeing the obvious even now.

This must end if we are to get through the present crisis. The #Resistance has made ďnot my presidentĒ its slogan for years. Well, like it or not, he is the president, and barring death or incapacitation will remain so for the crisisís duration. Criticizing Trumpís actions is appropriate, but the hyper-partisanship that views any act that he could possibly take as presumptively tainted and wrong must end if we are to come together as one nation and fight this battle together.

The failed impeachment effort, however, has made this highly unlikely. People who just a month ago had been whipped into a frenzy over Trumpís supposed dictatorial tendencies will find it hard to suddenly be willing to trust him as the crisis demands a degree of federal action not seen since the 1930s and 1940s. We entered a crisis that demanded national unity as a fractured and bitter people. It didnít have to be that way, but more than three years of a refusal to accept that Trump had fairly won the election ó a period of willful denial that culminated in impeachment ó made it so.

Impeachment advocates once implored Trump defenders to put ďcountry over party.Ē Now that the country is really under assault, itís imperative that they heed their own advice.
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