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Old 02-13-2019, 11:02 AM   #91
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Finally a voice of reason. I've refused to stay in this thread because it's pointless to try to get these people to understand he's a different cat. He's wired completely different than any QB in the league and as you stated he has down field vision like no other.

You guys can keep on saying he's like the others and going to have a sophomore slump or turn into a bust if it makes you feel better but the fact is a bad year for this guy is going to be 40 TDs.
To be fair Hogsy not sure how this thread has gone too far off the rails, and I find if refreshing that for the most part we are keeping this as serious as we can. That other thread, although fun, kind of ran its course.

Naturally there is bias on either side of the coin that might sway someone's opinion and it is really tough to predict the future based on 16 games, one really needs a small handful of years to get a good gauge. But as fans one wants to predict the future, it is just natural and fun, and we are in the off season.

Also, give us pats fans a bit of space and we naturally like to talk about other great QB as we have one ourselves, so natural to compare and talk about.

As I have said in the prior posts, Mahaomes has had a over the top season, has an ability to find the open WR, and although been shaky in a few games have kept the team close. At least some of this will translate going forward.

The pluses for Mahomes are these along with he looks outwardly he will be a great player, and played well in the playoffs although the chiefs O looked a little out of sync in the AFCCG.

The minus/caveats are that he plays for a team that has averaged 11 wins in the last three seasons with Alex Smith (which even some Chiefs find is not great QB) who is 2-1 against the Pats and Mahomes is 0-2, had 3 play makers at the three skilled positions, has Andy Reid as a coach, and has been shaky in prime time games going 2-5 including the playoffs.

So to be honest there meat for both sides to grab on to.

In the end though, the larger issue, is that your team has found a QB that you want to keep even if he does drop off next season.

And my overall opinion on him, is that i think he is great, makes great throws altho can be like Favre with some risky throws, i am excited to see how he plays next year and down the road how he fares with lesser talent around him.
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Old 02-13-2019, 11:13 AM   #92
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I just think certain teams are going to say no to the 6 year 200 million deal and risk the rookie deal. It is just as risky, how many contracts are not worth it within two years.
Especially with a run first qb. It's so dangerous to spend that kind of money with a qb who runs like wild and could risk getting hurt. Not sure Wilson is as bad as RG3 or Vick.... But he is known to run for first downs a lot and probably a big reason they had the number 1 run game in the NFL..... Being that I have no idea who any of their running backs are lol.
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second contract Q's are team killers.
Except for, well you know ... .
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Old 02-13-2019, 11:17 AM   #94
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:15 PM   #95
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So wasn't Watson supposed to be the next... or so many others.

I think he will be good because they will panic and draft a back early to replace Kicker Hunt, but that means the defense goes unchanged
Watson isn't that good imo...made of glass and when teams seen his tape, they contained him more afterwards.
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Okay, wonder why Seattle would not want to resign him. If they are smart they will resign the man.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/a...r-year-player/

And don't forget that that cap is getting a nice bump.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...on/2284116002/
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Thanks for the links. There are some big numbers in those QB contracts. And likely why the NFL is raising the salary cap.

Be interesting to see what happens with Wilson and Seattle.
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To me, he's Watson or early career Cam Newton. That's it. If he grows into a true stud, time will tell, but he's just another young QB with potential. I wouldn't not be surprised at all to see him come crashing back to Earth next year.
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To me, he's Watson or early career Cam Newton. That's it. If he grows into a true stud, time will tell, but he's just another young QB with potential. I wouldn't not be surprised at all to see him come crashing back to Earth next year.
Why type that crap when it's clear you have not watched him play?
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Why type that crap when it's clear you have not watched him play?
I saw him play two games. He went 0-2.

But he passed for a lot of yards while losing, so you and I are both happy. You get a QB with a regular season MVP trophy, and I get a QB hoisting yet another Lombardi.

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I saw him play two games. He went 0-2.

But he passed for a lot of yards while losing, so you and I are both happy. You get a QB with a regular season MVP trophy, and I get a QB hoisting yet another Lombardi.

If 0-2 sticks in your mind I wonder why you type this crap also. Mahommes put up record numbers this year..... aw nevermind , I'm tired of this dumbfuckery.
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If 0-2 sticks in your mind I wonder why you type this crap also. Mahommes put up record numbers this year..... aw nevermind , I'm tired of this dumbfuckery.
It's not crap. We know he put up great numbers. Goody goody for you, but you cannot seem to handle the truth, that two of those numbers were 0-2 head-to-head with Brady.

But we are talking about how he did and wondering if he will improve, stay the same, or regress.

No one knows at this point.

You are talking about what you THINK he will be like over the next 20 years and talking like it is fact.

It isn't fact. It's what you want to happen, maybe, but future performance isn't fact.

That is the real dumfuckery.

As I said, you can have Dan Marino stats. We'll take Lombardis.

By the way, did you see my challenge to you? About what Mahommes will do next years. Did you miss it or are you a ?
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Yeah, I saw your challenge. It's something a 12 year old would say so I ignored it.
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If 0-2 sticks in your mind I wonder why you type this crap also. Mahommes put up record numbers this year..... aw nevermind , I'm tired of this dumbfuckery.
You're the one typing it out...
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Yeah, I saw your challenge. It's something a 12 year old would say so I ignored it.
Sounds like you have no confidence in Mahomes.

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