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Old 01-08-2013, 11:34 AM   #181
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The market will handle this. It's called Netflix.
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Point still stand. He threw smoke into the theater and started shooting. You don't think disoriented, scared patrons aren't likely to accidentally shoot other citizens firing in self defense or miss and hit innocents?

I'm not saying he couldn't have been taken out earlier, but there is no guarantee. IMO, a bloodbath sparked by fear, disorientation and impulse is just as likely.

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They weren't so disoriented that they couldn't (try) to make it to the exists and they were aware of who was shooting, where he was, and what he was wearing, so no. Survivor accounts also correlated police arrest reports which described his calm demeanor. They saw him and saw him very clearly.

At any rate, this isn't any more justification for an 'assault weapons ban' than it is for avoiding movie theaters.
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:43 PM   #183
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The market will handle this. It's called Netflix.
Unless you get capped on the way to the mail box.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:21 PM   #184
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I think most people would be shocked to know how many people are carrying at any one time. I haven't asked anyone, but know that there is four at my church alone that I know of.

I won't pretend to say that someone might have stopped the shooting this theater shooting. I wasn't there, and don't know what the room was like. That being said, times more then not, someone CC has stopped a crime in progress then made it worse.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:55 PM   #185
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Unless you get capped on the way to the mail box.
It can be used online though. Like I said the market and emerging technology. Smart technology can be used to keep guns out of the hands of non-lawful owners too.
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I would rather not sit in a movie theater with a bunch of people packing. Not sure I could enjoy the movie.
How would you know? Middie not you personally but you in general plural way If they have a CP. This is a serious question How could you tell? I ask because i hear a lot of people say that. But I'm not sure how they would be able to tell. Hell I've been married for almost 31 years and I can't always tell when my hubby is carrying.

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Old 01-08-2013, 05:12 PM   #187
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Really? In a dark theater filling with smoke, random people firing guns would have 'saved' lives... ?

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They may not have to actually fire their weapon to influence the situation.

It isn't clear if Nick Meli pulling his weapon on the shooter at the Oregon Mall really is what made him stop, but this is what he said.
"I'm not beating myself up cause I didn't shoot him," said Meli. "I know after he saw me, I think the last shot he fired was the one he used on himself."


I'm not sure of the specific statistics, but many of these shooters end up killing themselves. I believe this most often takes place once they no longer have any easy victims and the police or security forces are on the scene. Again, I'm not certain of this, but IIRC, this is a common pattern.

If we assume this behavior pattern is common, then if a citizen pulls a weapon, and draws down on them, there may be no need for them to shoot to stop the murder.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:15 PM   #188
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I understand why they did it, it makes sense to me.

I can't understand why any of them would want to return, but I also didn't lose a loved-one, so my opinion probably means very little.
I can understand how some would want to go back, to find closure.

How often have you heard about small shrines, candles, piles of flowers, etc. placed on the side of a road or side walk where someone died?

It certainly seems that there are a reasonable percentage of the population that return to the location where a loved one died.
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I respect Mr. Meli for not firing for fear he'd hit an innocent. Such a composed young man.
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http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/crime...olice-arrest-5

http://blogs.sacbee.com/crime/archiv...be-robber.html

These a few I found, I have found more in the last few months. My feelings is that as long as no innocent people get hurt (if the bad guy gets injured, well, so be it) it is okay. I hate to be that way, but if would be robbers knew that people were armed, they might not do it. Think of all the shootings that happen and just happen to be in "gun free zones".
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It can be used online though. Like I said the market and emerging technology. Smart technology can be used to keep guns out of the hands of non-lawful owners too.
All I've seen is roadblocks placed in front of lawful owners. Crooks still get theirs - by such as stealing.
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I think most people would be shocked to know how many people are carrying at any one time. I haven't asked anyone, but know that there is four at my church alone that I know of.
Good for them. I personally feel it's safer with carriers around.

Let's face it though; only a rare, minute amount of times do these situations even arise. Media are blowing it WAY out of proportion.
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All I've seen is roadblocks placed in front of lawful owners. Crooks still get theirs - by such as stealing.
I don't disagree. I was just responding to your post about Netflix.
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