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Old 10-11-2018, 03:15 PM   #106
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hogwash!


We are constantly reminded (and have been for 20+ years) by politicians, pundits and media alike that SSI will be bankrupt in the mid 2020s. Whether there is any official notification or not is immaterial. As far as the immigration issue, our nation wants and needs immigrants...legal ones.
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If it's anything like what you and Baron suppose it is, it's end game is the end of capitalism, free market principles, national sovereignty and conservative ideals...at least as we currently know them. You can't have the huge influx that comes with that type of policy, the majority of whom will be net tax takers, without an increase in existing and creation of new social spending. This type of policy isn't a slippery slope, it's the final push, towards socialism.
So scary! Of course, immigrants can also found companies such as Intel or Google, generating insane money, which, if not used to subsidize billionaires could accommodate social security and much more...


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Old 10-12-2018, 05:36 AM   #108
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So scary! Of course, immigrants can also found companies such as Intel or Google, generating insane money, which, if not used to subsidize billionaires could accommodate social security and much more...


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What's the incentive to move here and start a company if the government is going to take the profits and give it to people who didn't earn it?
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Old 10-12-2018, 06:45 AM   #109
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So scary! Of course, immigrants can also found companies such as Intel or Google, generating insane money, which, if not used to subsidize billionaires could accommodate social security and much more...


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That's so naive it is cute.

Insane money buys insane corporate welfare, and the government is always open for business.

Taxes are for small people and small businesses.

It doesn't even matter what the top tax rates are...nobody pays them. Income taxes...rich people aren't living off of paychecks and wages...they don't pay them. Top corporate tax rates.....rich companies buy tax shelters and credits and loopholes. GE and Amazon aren't paying top tax rates...they pay lobbyists and accountants and politicians. Only small businesses and family businesses pay that.

When you hear "tax the rich", grab you're wallet, because when it comes to taxes, "the rich" are exclusively middle class.
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:03 AM   #110
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So scary! Of course, immigrants can also found companies such as Intel or Google, generating insane money, which, if not used to subsidize billionaires could accommodate social security and much more...


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It's not scary, it's just the reality. Of course every immigrant who works, whether a low paying job or high, under open borders socialism as defined by Baron and Tmack will be paying into FICA and I said as such. So yes, the influx will help to pay for the retiring baby boomers SS and temporarily push SS insolvency down the road a bit.

But the vast majority of immigration under that type of policy will indeed not only have wages low enough to qualify for virtually all existing public assistance (food stamps, housing, health insurance) and public education, but also wages low enough that they won't be paying income taxes.

So again, the SS problem will be temporarily taken care of, but at the expense of massive expansion in other social programs. So really, all we are doing is robbing from Peter to pay Paul. That's eventually gonna make Peter sore...and everybody knows you can't do a damned thing with a sore Peter.
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Beto O’Rourke raises $38 million in 3rd quarter

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It wouldn't break my heart to see Ted Cruz ousted. I'll happily hand that seat to the democrats. It's a win-win.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:00 PM   #112
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So really, all we are doing is robbing from Peter to pay Paul.
Now that I think of it, if I had to sum up government in a single sentence, that would be it.
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Beto winning is a pipedream, seriously, he's not beating Cruz.
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Beto winning is a pipedream, seriously, he's not beating Cruz.

Agree. he is not beating Cruz.


On a completely different subject, anyone hear that after the mid-terms, President Donald John Trump is planning on legalizing medical marijuana and leaving recreational marijuana to states to control any way they want?
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Texas Dems ask noncitizens to register to vote, send applications with citizenship box pre-checked

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Shocking.

They'll probably be handing them out to the Hondurans on the border, too.
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Agree. he is not beating Cruz.


On a completely different subject, anyone hear that after the mid-terms, President Donald John Trump is planning on legalizing medical marijuana and leaving recreational marijuana to states to control any way they want?
What would be a proper Republican response to that?
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hogwash!


We are constantly reminded (and have been for 20+ years) by politicians, pundits and media alike that SSI will be bankrupt in the mid 2020s. Whether there is any official notification or not is immaterial. As far as the immigration issue, our nation wants and needs immigrants...legal ones.
Actually I wonder about some legal ones.

A coworker of my wife's, now retired, married a younger man from Egypt. The new husband had his dad brought over. The dad has received every benefit possible without paying a dime. Subsidized housing, medical, ,,. The son got paid thousands a month to "take care of his dad". Now the wife, the coworker is in on the deal, getting paid to take care of her father-in-law.

I have been told there are apartment buildings full of people just like this in SoCal.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...in-3rd-quarter

It wouldn't break my heart to see Ted Cruz ousted. I'll happily hand that seat to the democrats. It's a win-win.
Beto probably will be Senator or Governor, but maybe 6 years from now. He's a 3 term Congressman and he's not going to go anywhere. Lots of successful politicians lose the first time around. Texas is eventually going to turn blue like Virginia did.
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