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Old 07-13-2017, 12:16 PM   #16
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I have heard this. The trainer at my gym said that exercise that requires balance like free weights or any type of dancing is supposed to help fend off mental dementia.

I also learned recently that exercise is being encouraged to all women who are entering or are in menopause. Apparently it really helps with the balance of hormone loss and increases mental equilibrium.
I realize I'm dangerously close to "prostelizing vegan" territory here, but I really can't say enough good thing about kettlebells vs free weights. I've had experience with both and got dramatically better results with kettlebells.

I need to start doing some yoga which is also supposed to be incredibly beneficial for staving off the bad things about getting older. Something else that is really good for core strength which helps alleviate back pain.
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I've had experience with both and got dramatically better results with kettlebells.
And when you get bored you can practice your shot put. Or you can tie a rope to it and hammer toss. Or use it as a portable dog anchor. Very versatile,

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Old 07-13-2017, 06:42 PM   #18
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In other words, if one off season Belichick shows up to training camp looking like a superhero we may as well cancel the season.
I doubt many other 65 year old men have legs like his.
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So I'm curious beagle, are you interpreting my posts in this thread as attacks on Belichick?
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Bill is just one of those guys where his weight fluctuates 15 pounds or so more often than most people, I'd say.

He's been both buffer than that pic and fatter several times over the last few years. He battled the dreaded manboobs early in camp last year and then seemed to trim down. That's totally my opinion. I'm not weighing him, but I can see fairly well.

I don't think those Bill Parcells shorts do him any favors, either, but if his offseason routine consists of slamming down coffee rolls and chocolate frappes then who are we to question him?

Whatever he does should be considered the new blueprint for planet Earth.
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I realize I'm dangerously close to "prostelizing vegan" territory here, but I really can't say enough good thing about kettlebells vs free weights. I've had experience with both and got dramatically better results with kettlebells.

I need to start doing some yoga which is also supposed to be incredibly beneficial for staving off the bad things about getting older. Something else that is really good for core strength which helps alleviate back pain.
I prefer the weight resistance machines personally because they isolate muscle groups and lock in form. I have a bad hip from my pregnancies so I am ultra conservative when it comes to anything free form. I will do it, I just use very light weight. I like the kettle bells as well. Lately, I have been digging the pull up and dip machine at my gym. You can add weight for resistance which I like so I get the right amount of tension. I can really see a difference in my upper body which I am excited about.

Any advice you can offer to help with core is much appreciated. That is my main goal after having kids (it has been 5 years since I had my last child) is to strengthen the core. I find it is always a battle.
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I prefer the weight resistance machines personally because they isolate muscle groups and lock in form. I have a bad hip from my pregnancies so I am ultra conservative when it comes to anything free form. I will do it, I just use very light weight. I like the kettle bells as well. Lately, I have been digging the pull up and dip machine at my gym. You can add weight for resistance which I like so I get the right amount of tension. I can really see a difference in my upper body which I am excited about.

Any advice you can offer to help with core is much appreciated. That is my main goal after having kids (it has been 5 years since I had my last child) is to strengthen the core. I find it is always a battle.
Balance/exercise balls are great for core work!!! Look on YouTube for some good routines.

Machines can be great, but biggest mistake people make is to "throw" the weights up and let the machine do a lot of the work. If you aren't doing it already, try to lift going up on a 3 second count and lower on a 4 second count.

You mentioned menopause, which is a time many women experience bone loss. Load bearing activities like weight lifting is great for fighting this loss. I recommend getting a bone density test. My wife got one and was surprised by how much she has lost. Doc said cutting out sodas is helpful. That Diet Pepsi sh*t is bad juju for bones.
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Kettle bells are good for core strength because nearly every excercise engages your core muscles. Even ones designed to work other parts of the body. Here's a link to the workout I started doing about 6 months ago and still do at least once a week

https://www.onnit.com/academy/full-b...for-beginners/

That website in general has so much useful information about fitness and overall well being. I do 2-3 days a week of kettlebells and another 2-3 days a week kickboxing. Which is another way of saying I put a heavy bag in my garage.

Yoga may be the best overall thing a person can do for their health. It's something I need to start working into my weekly regime, but I'm not all that keen on stuff I have to leave my house to do because I'm way less likely to do it. But it's definitely something I want to start doing, just haven't quite figured out the method yet.
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Balance/exercise balls are great for core work!!! Look on YouTube for some good routines.

Machines can be great, but biggest mistake people make is to "throw" the weights up and let the machine do a lot of the work. If you aren't doing it already, try to lift going up on a 3 second count and lower on a 4 second count.

You mentioned menopause, which is a time many women experience bone loss. Load bearing activities like weight lifting is great for fighting this loss. I recommend getting a bone density test. My wife got one and was surprised by how much she has lost. Doc said cutting out sodas is helpful. That Diet Pepsi sh*t is bad juju for bones.
Yes! Yes! All of this!

One advantage kettlebells have over machines is that they don't isolate single muscles but tend to work multiple things at the same time so you're more efficient.

One tip is if you're going to start messing around with kettlebells to invest in a few wrist bands. Quite a few excercises have you flipping the ball around and it's nice to have a little padding to protect your wrist and forearm.
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Kettle bells are good for core strength because nearly every excercise engages your core muscles. Even ones designed to work other parts of the body. Here's a link to the workout I started doing about 6 months ago and still do at least once a week

https://www.onnit.com/academy/full-b...for-beginners/

That website in general has so much useful information about fitness and overall well being. I do 2-3 days a week of kettlebells and another 2-3 days a week kickboxing. Which is another way of saying I put a heavy bag in my garage.

Yoga may be the best overall thing a person can do for their health. It's something I need to start working into my weekly regime, but I'm not all that keen on stuff I have to leave my house to do because I'm way less likely to do it. But it's definitely something I want to start doing, just haven't quite figured out the method yet.
I have done yoga off and on over the years, and I agree it's beneficial. But I have had far more success maintaining self-discipline (i.e. sticking with my workouts) with other forms of exercise, especially running.

As far as kettlebells go, I have posted this workout in other threads in the past, but it's worth repeating here: The 10,000 Swing Kettlebell Workout.

I don't use the recommended 53 lb KB, I use a 35 lb KB (I'm in my middle 60s now, so I prefer not to hurt myself when I workout). I do sets of 20 push-ups as my "strength movement" exercise. I also do a few stretching exercises between clusters. I usually do my workouts in the gym where I work, but I have a 35 lb kettlebell at home as well.

I try to do this twice a year - in the spring (March or April) and in the fall (October or November). It's a real feeling of accomplishment when swing 10000 is reached.

And there's nothing like the crazy hedonism of a Sunday morning LSD (long steady distance run), followed by 500 KB swings, then a breakfast of bacon, eggs, and coffee.


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Shit, I feel like a savage tossing my 25lb ball around. Gonna have to look into that 10,000 swing challenge.
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Shit, I feel like a savage tossing my 25lb ball around. Gonna have to look into that 10,000 swing challenge.
This kettlebell stuff is new to me. See them at the gym. Wondered what they were (I mean, could see folk working with them but didn't ring a "bell"). Now very interested. Notice most sites seem to reco 16KG for male beginners. Yours is what, 30% less than that? Smaller seems better for me, intuitively but sites caution against smaller weight. Thoughts?

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Your Andrew Luck is physically more j-j-j-jacked than Brady. Means nothing.
FWIW, Brady looks quite a bit different now, than he did back then. That's probably why he can really fire the ball now, unlike the candy arm he had back then.
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This kettlebell stuff is new to me. See them at the gym. Wondered what they were (I mean, could see folk working with them but didn't ring a "bell"). Now very interested. Notice most sites seem to reco 16KG for male beginners. Yours is what, 30% less than that? Smaller seems better for me, intuitively but sites caution against smaller weight. Thoughts?

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I would err on the side on smaller when you're starting out. It probably depends on what you're doing, I do 8-12 excercises one after the other with no rest in between 3 times.

I started out with a 15lb weight and have been working my way up. Personally I think you're better off doing less hardcore workouts more often. So instead of going balls out 2-3 times a week, do a less strenuous workout 5-6 times a week. Never go to failure. I don't think that's good for you.

I think the worst thing you can do, especially starting out, is to go too hard and end up hurting yourself. Then you can't work out for awhile and end up never going back. Gotta leave that ego at the door. I had to make that mistake 4 or 5 times before I finally figured it out.
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You think so? I think he is still not defined. See sumo fight.
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