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Old 06-16-2004, 07:33 AM   #61
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Why that's so crazy it might just work!!
Only on PatriotsPlanet could one of our posters argue that there's a moral imperative compelling a board member to engage in an incestuous three-way and yet not either have the thread a) banned or b) immediately have said thread transferred to..."Everything but Patriots Football" or "Around the NFL."
Not to make light of your situation Oed, but this is why I love PatriotsPlanet. Where else are you going to find a Dolphins troll and a Bills therapist giving relationship advice to a British Texan Patriot fan in love with sisters??

But I am starting to think you are right Oed. The perfect resolution would be to move to Salt Lake City
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Not to make light of your situation Oed, but this is why I love PatriotsPlanet. Where else are you going to find a Dolphins troll and a Bills therapist giving relationship advice to a British Texan Patriot fan in love with sisters??

But I am starting to think you are right Oed. The perfect resolution would be to move to Salt Lake City
This site has the makings of a reality series.

BTW, polygamy is illegal in Utah. You'd probably have to go to an arabic country.
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This site has the makings of a reality series.

BTW, polygamy is illegal in Utah. You'd probably have to go to an arabic country.
I know, but that's where its practiced most anyway in this country anyway ;)
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Old 06-16-2004, 09:23 AM   #64
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tex...

here's some fly-by thoughts:

First, I've worked with dysfunctional families for years. Literally thousands. I'm just sharing some observations that I've made over the years in dealing with situations very similar to what you are describing.

Um, yes. Believe it or not this is NOT an uncommon situation. It happens far more frequently than most people realiZe.

With all due respect for this SISTERperson, she may be the nicest most sincere person in the world, but that still doesn't change the fact that she has ALLOWED herself to indulge in going places where she has NO business going. PERIOD.

She has basically sabatoged her sister's love relationship. She played a POWER MOVE on her sister, and that I can assure you could have life-long consequences. Now WHY she would do such a thing is really the interesting question here. She may not have INTENTIONALLY done this, but that in essence is EXACTLY what has happened.

I'm not trying to be offensive here, but as far as two sisters playing someone along for a ride, yep I've seen that plenty of times too. I have no idea what these two women are like, but I can tell you that most sisters wouldn't take too kindly to this sort of thing, let along family as collateral damage.

LOL... no offense but when you can't control the hard-on you get around SisterDearest, I doubt whether you are REALLY in an OBJECTIVE position to assess what this woman's subconscious motives are....

If she is as attractive as you describe, there is NO WAY that you can have ANY objectivity in assessing her character. Nope. Ain't buying that one.

I won't go into the details, but suffice it to say that when you are considered to be that "hot", you deal with this kind of stuff all the time. Seriously. From everywhere; family, friends, and perfect strangers.

When a woman has that effect on men (I highly doubt you're the only guy who finds her uber-attractive), she also has a responsibility IMO to manage it properly. There are ways to say NO and NOT GO THERE in certain situations, and she had NO business allowing herself to indulge in this fantasy game with you.

If a woman who looks like SisterHottie is hanging out with her sister's boyfriend when she should be finding a relationship of her own, there are issues. Issues she needs to get resolved. Why would she do this to her sister? And YES, she did THIS to her sister.


Tex, I know that you are going to rationaliZe why your situation is so DIFFERENT than what I'm describing here. But trust me on this one, there's a stinker in the pile here somewhere.

You seem like a nice guy in a bad as* situation. The unfortunate reality is that it can now never be what you wanted it to be no matter how this shakes out.

This is definitely one of those situations in life because no matter WHAT happens, you can't recapture what you had before all the complications came along.

But I do have to chuckle at DOLLyFaN because there really is some great merit in chucking all the thinking and banging them both!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Stay the course, man. Just be the man who you are and all will work out. Just be careful as you go and this will all work itself out for the best. Even if that "best" changes things, it will get resolved and you can move on, having learned some valuable lessons along the way.

Beware of lurking hottiesisters!!!!
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Wyo - are you sure you're a billz fan? Your advice is a bit too sound....



Seriously though, you wrote some good stuff. I've been the therapist route and am glad I did it.
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here's some fly-by thoughts:

there really is some great merit in chucking all the thinking and banging them both!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Any therapists that gives out this kind of advice is A-OKAY in my book!!!
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Re: tex...

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[B]here's some fly-by thoughts:

First, I've worked with dysfunctional families for years. Literally thousands. I'm just sharing some observations that I've made over the years in dealing with situations very similar to what you are describing.

Um, yes. Believe it or not this is NOT an uncommon situation. It happens far more frequently than most people realiZe.

With all due respect for this SISTERperson, she may be the nicest most sincere person in the world, but that still doesn't change the fact that she has ALLOWED herself to indulge in going places where she has NO business going. PERIOD.

She has basically sabatoged her sister's love relationship. She played a POWER MOVE on her sister, and that I can assure you could have life-long consequences. Now WHY she would do such a thing is really the interesting question here. She may not have INTENTIONALLY done this, but that in essence is EXACTLY what has happened.
Let me play devil's advocate here.

On the other hand, she also waited several months to make sure that this wasn't just a fling, or a passing interest. As a therapist, your position is that if a guy dates a girl seriously, he essentially can NEVER date that girl's sister under any circumstances?

In my opinion, Sister really took a huge chance in showing her hand. She adores her sister, and losing that relationship would really mess her up. Why would she risk it? She's not crazy, or even very impetuous - she's a very thoughtful person in general.

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I'm not trying to be offensive here, but as far as two sisters playing someone along for a ride, yep I've seen that plenty of times too. I have no idea what these two women are like, but I can tell you that most sisters wouldn't take too kindly to this sort of thing, let along family as collateral damage.
Totally understood. I have a very hard time believing that they are putting me on, knowing them as well as I do. The risk of that collateral damage is a huge part of the reason I think she's sincere.

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LOL... no offense but when you can't control the hard-on you get around SisterDearest, I doubt whether you are REALLY in an OBJECTIVE position to assess what this woman's subconscious motives are....
Now listen, it isn't like that. I'm around her a lot, and it isn't like I spend all my time with a raging woody. But I've been fighting with myself about this girl for the better part of a year, and she came on pretty strong. I had a long drive home, and a lot of time to think about all the different places that could have gone.

I'm not saying I'm objective. But this isn't "The O.C." or "90210," here. These women aren't whoring around, or just horny.

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If she is as attractive as you describe, there is NO WAY that you can have ANY objectivity in assessing her character. Nope. Ain't buying that one.
Fair enough. But suffice it to say that I know her pretty well.

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I won't go into the details, but suffice it to say that when you are considered to be that "hot", you deal with this kind of stuff all the time. Seriously. From everywhere; family, friends, and perfect strangers.

When a woman has that effect on men (I highly doubt you're the only guy who finds her uber-attractive), she also has a responsibility IMO to manage it properly. There are ways to say NO and NOT GO THERE in certain situations, and she had NO business allowing herself to indulge in this fantasy game with you.
If I'm right, though, it isn't a "fantasy game." She's trying to prevent someone who she sees as perfect for her from being out of reach forever. That isn't even a possibility in your mind?

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If a woman who looks like SisterHottie is hanging out with her sister's boyfriend when she should be finding a relationship of her own, there are issues. Issues she needs to get resolved. Why would she do this to her sister? And YES, she did THIS to her sister.
She's had 3 different boyfriends, the longest lasting about 4 months, since I've known her. She's gone on dates with maybe 5 additional guys, and it went nowhere. G/F and I are sort of her "default." She has an active social life.

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Tex, I know that you are going to rationaliZe why your situation is so DIFFERENT than what I'm describing here. But trust me on this one, there's a stinker in the pile here somewhere.
Look, you may be right. I might be too close to the situation to see it clearly. But I don't see it as you describe. I think the straight up facts of this paint a worse picture in terms of connotation, than actually exists. I think people are automatically comparing it to something they see on TV, or in movies, or read in books.

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You seem like a nice guy in a bad as* situation. The unfortunate reality is that it can now never be what you wanted it to be no matter how this shakes out.

This is definitely one of those situations in life because no matter WHAT happens, you can't recapture what you had before all the complications came along.
Very possibly true. G/F is coming over later on, and we're gonna talk for awhile. I'm not sure what I'm going to say.
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Very possibly true. G/F is coming over later on, and we're gonna talk for awhile. I'm not sure what I'm going to say.
I'm no shrink, but it sounds to me like you certainly aren't just thinking with your codpiece or you would have made a move a long time ago.

The more I read the more difficult (and intriguing) your position seems to be. I keep getting a "thank God that isn't me" feeling as I read, but there sounds like there is a possibility of things working out, although I still don't like the Vegas odds. Probably not as good as J-Lo and Marc making it through the year.

I just hope that whatever you end up saying .....may your words have wings.

Best of luck.
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Hmm. This thread is interesting, "Tex."
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Re: Oh....one last recommendation.

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Make sure your girlfriend doesn't know you go by OedipusTex on this board.

And that she can't just automatically sign on to the planet without your password.

Stranger things on heaven and earth, Horatio. Stranger things.

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Hmm. This thread is interesting, "Tex."
Hmm indeed. Either bad news for Oed, or NR sneaking around with evil intentions.

At any rate, if it's the former - give the fella a break. He's trying to do the right thing.
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Hmm indeed. Either bad news for Oed, or NR sneaking around with evil intentions.

At any rate, if it's the former - give the fella a break. He's trying to do the right thing.

I agree...You seem like a decent guy, OT. I admire your trying to figure it out rationally. I don't have any advice, but I do hope it all turns out good for ya.
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Hmm indeed. Either bad news for Oed, or NR sneaking around with evil intentions.

At any rate, if it's the former - give the fella a break. He's trying to do the right thing.

Would be easy enough for one of the mods to check IP and run a traceroute.
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No, I'm just kidding, it's still me. ;)

That would really suck, though.
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