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Old 01-01-2008, 10:50 AM   #106
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:04 AM   #107
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This will likely be my last post here at the Planet.

I think that I was Assclowned primarily because I insulted one of the mods.

Yes, I have expressed views strongly and have expressed views that others disagreed with. Yes, that is not how many conduct themselves here.

But I've seen a lot of posting here that is worse. IU calls me a shithead repeatedly and makes a joke about the real DS, and he is not assclowned.

I think that proves pretty definitively that what got me tossed was the fact that I dared to insult a moderator.

I think that's abusive and it's too bad.

There are a lot of posters here that I really like, and I truly appreciate UT59.

I am sorry that I will not be able to share views with other Pats fans during the run to the Super Bowl. It is going to be a great ride and I would have enjoyed talking about it with many of you.

I still think what I think about Tony Dungy, and I always will view behavior like Mangini and Dungy exhibited this season with contempt, and will never shy away from stating my views.

Last, people like TMack and Jaric know well that I'm capable of having spirited debate without being someone who should be assclowned, and to those two great Colts fans, I send my best wishes and good luck on a personal basis, even if I hate your football team with a passion.

Damn, this was an unfortunate turn of events.

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This will likely be my last post here at the Planet.

I think that I was Assclowned primarily because I insulted one of the mods.

Yes, I have expressed views strongly and have expressed views that others disagreed with. Yes, that is not how many conduct themselves here.

But I've seen a lot of posting here that is worse. IU calls me a shithead repeatedly and makes a joke about the real DS, and he is not assclowned.

I think that proves pretty definitively that what got me tossed was the fact that I dared to insult a moderator.

I think that's abusive and it's too bad.

There are a lot of posters here that I really like, and I truly appreciate UT59.

I am sorry that I will not be able to share views with other Pats fans during the run to the Super Bowl. It is going to be a great ride and I would have enjoyed talking about it with many of you.

I still think what I think about Tony Dungy, and I always will view behavior like Mangini and Dungy exhibited this season with contempt, and will never shy away from stating my views.

Last, people like TMack and Jaric know well that I'm capable of having spirited debate without being someone who should be assclowned, and to those two great Colts fans, I send my best wishes and good luck on a personal basis, even if I hate your football team with a passion.

Damn, this was an unfortunate turn of events.

Later.
The people you attacked were cool.

Plenty of morons to attack around here, apologize to the non-tards and you should be fine.
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:19 AM   #109
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Annihilus makes no apologies for his decision, nor does he have to explain himself. This is a PRIVATE board and it is a PRIVELEGE to post here and most people are able to discern what makes this place special and what is acceptable and decent.

Are we perfect? No. Do we catch everything we should? No. Can we please everyone? No. Are you allowed to say whateverthefvck you want at any time? No.

Darryl, the decision to Assclown you was made solely by Annihilus. UT, Hawg, Pookie and bideau had nothing to do with it and they are welcome to reverse the ruling at any time without Annihilus flipping out about it.

If they feel it was unjust, you'll be back in the main population before you know it.
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DS, seriously, go back and read this entire thread, including the title and ask yourself if it was doomed from the start. You're usually pretty damn good for discussions, but for most of this thread you weren't discussing. You stated your opinion as fact and pretty much jumped on anyone who disagreed.

Hell, I'd love to have a serious discussion on Dungy. I respect what he's done with the Colts and his abilities, but the guy annoys the hell out of me on occasion too. That said, I didn't jump in this thread because it wasn't started as a discussion, but a flame.
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:32 AM   #111
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DS, seriously, go back and read this entire thread, including the title and ask yourself if it was doomed from the start. You're usually pretty damn good for discussions, but for most of this thread you weren't discussing. You stated your opinion as fact and pretty much jumped on anyone who disagreed.

Hell, I'd love to have a serious discussion on Dungy. I respect what he's done with the Colts and his abilities, but the guy annoys the hell out of me on occasion too. That said, I didn't jump in this thread because it wasn't started as a discussion, but a flame.
I respectfully disagree with how you characterize my actions in that thread.

That said, I had a few drinks last night and was definitely spirited. But if you look at my discussion with TMack, I think you'll see that it wasn't all attack mode.

In any event, I hope that one of the other mods reverses Annilus' decision. I know that this is a private board, and I know that I can be a bit "edgy" at times, but I honestly think that I add much more to the board than I take away, and that tossing a hard core Pats fan at this point in the season, and doing so immediately after he had the temerity to insult a moderator, seems wrong.

I wrote to UT59 that if I'm reinstated now, that I'll make an effort to tone it down and control my posts. Hopefully, that's good enough for him or one of the other mods, or even Annilus, to reinstate me.

And last, if I insulted posters besides IU last night, I do apologize for that. That was not my intention.
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I respectfully disagree with how you characterize my actions in that thread.
I believe the term you used was Dungy Apologists. That implies a couple of things. First, that they're apologizing for Dungy's actions, meaning he must have been wrong. In the same light, it would also imply that they're wrong for defending him.

But even with that, do you seriously not think the title of the thread was flame bait from the start? Especially on a "global community" such as this board prides itself on being?
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I believe the term you used was Dungy Apologists. That implies a couple of things. First, that they're apologizing for Dungy's actions, meaning he must have been wrong. In the same light, it would also imply that they're wrong for defending him.

But even with that, do you seriously not think the title of the thread was flame bait from the start? Especially on a "global community" such as this board prides itself on being?
Bad choice of words on my part.

I meant by that expression those who don't see that Dungy is a hypocrite.

And let's say you're right on the bad thread title. Actually, you are right. It was too much. I think that Dungy is a total hypocrite, but there were better ways to say that or begin a discussion of it. And I still think that the fact that the Pats are 16-0 doesn't give Dungy a pass on his behavior after week one.

And I still think that ACing me over making some mistakes in the thread, and insulting a moderator, was rash.

I'd like to be reinstated, as I said above, and I will do my best to tone it down if I am.
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:55 AM   #114
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I respectfully disagree with how you characterize my actions in that thread.

That said, I had a few drinks last night and was definitely spirited. But if you look at my discussion with TMack, I think you'll see that it wasn't all attack mode.

In any event, I hope that one of the other mods reverses Annilus' decision. I know that this is a private board, and I know that I can be a bit "edgy" at times, but I honestly think that I add much more to the board than I take away, and that tossing a hard core Pats fan at this point in the season, and doing so immediately after he had the temerity to insult a moderator, seems wrong.

I wrote to UT59 that if I'm reinstated now, that I'll make an effort to tone it down and control my posts. Hopefully, that's good enough for him or one of the other mods, or even Annilus, to reinstate me. We should be bigger than our detractors.

And last, if I insulted posters besides IU last night, I do apologize for that. That was not my intention.
FYI - The intention was never to send you here permanently. It was to give you something to think about.

The fact that you mention that you are going to try to tone down your posts indicates to Annihilus that you know exactly why you were sent here (other than calling Annihilus an idiot). Annihilus is far from being an unreasonable person.

Believe it or not, Annihilus has nothing but the best intentions in the effort to try to keep this board a place where we all like to come and hang out and enjoy each others company. It's been proven time and again that this community can delve deeply into religious (and other deep) discussions without creating such hard feelings that your thread did.

As Pats fans, it is this mods opinion that we should try to set an example and be above the vitriol that is thrown our way by haters. It is a crying shame that the board stoops to the level of all of the other people that we bitch about ourselves.
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This will likely be my last post here at the Planet.

I think that I was Assclowned primarily because I insulted one of the mods.

Yes, I have expressed views strongly and have expressed views that others disagreed with. Yes, that is not how many conduct themselves here.

But I've seen a lot of posting here that is worse. IU calls me a shithead repeatedly and makes a joke about the real DS, and he is not assclowned.

I think that proves pretty definitively that what got me tossed was the fact that I dared to insult a moderator.

I think that's abusive and it's too bad.

There are a lot of posters here that I really like, and I truly appreciate UT59.

I am sorry that I will not be able to share views with other Pats fans during the run to the Super Bowl. It is going to be a great ride and I would have enjoyed talking about it with many of you.

I still think what I think about Tony Dungy, and I always will view behavior like Mangini and Dungy exhibited this season with contempt, and will never shy away from stating my views.

Last, people like TMack and Jaric know well that I'm capable of having spirited debate without being someone who should be assclowned, and to those two great Colts fans, I send my best wishes and good luck on a personal basis, even if I hate your football team with a passion.

Damn, this was an unfortunate turn of events.

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Insulting a football player (or any other public figure) is one thing. Insulting good posters is different, IMO. The "unwritten rule" has been, if a troll starts some trouble, then have at them, but otherwise, the normal rules of civility (whatever that is) applies to everyone (regardless of which team they root for). Speaking only for myself, I wish you'd post the troll bait threads in the AA instead of the main forum (as it's basically the smack talk forum here, among other things).

I also think there should be a link off of the main forum (for the AA) to make it more obvious to visiting trolls where the smack talk should go.
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Insulting a football player (or any other public figure) is one thing. Insulting good posters is different, IMO. The "unwritten rule" has been, if a troll starts some trouble, then have at them, but otherwise, the normal rules of civility (whatever that is) applies to everyone (regardless of which team they root for). Speaking only for myself, I wish you'd post the troll bait threads in the AA instead of the main forum (as it's basically the smack talk forum here, among other things).

I also think there should be a link off of the main forum (for the AA) to make it more obvious to visiting trolls where the smack talk should go.
Condensing dc's message:

Rule #1 Attack the post, not the poster.
Rule #2 If poster is obvious troll, disregard Rule #1
Rule #3 Don't call a mod an idiot.
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It's that as a religious man, he should have been the last person to pile on Belichick when he was down.
Perhaps Dungy doesn't feel that an NFL coach commenting on a NFL incident that is all over the news is "piling it on."

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"Vulnerable?" How so? He made his bed, he has to lie in it. I simply don't understand the justification by you and Lisa (I believe) that says Dungy opens himself up to criticism by sharing his religious beliefs publicly, but Belichick somehow can't be criticized for getting caught blatantly violating rules the Commissioner sent a memo about just days before. Can or can not a coach be criticized for his actions?

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I didn't say he shouldn't, or that he was morally wrong for doing so, I said that I "wished he hadn't" or at the time, "wished/hoped he wouldn't."

You can disagree with what he did, but it's the intent of Dungy that shows his true character. If honestly think that he thought he was twisting the knife in BB's back, then you're opinion on this is valid. I don't, however, think Dungy thought that at all. He was actually complimentary of several players by name.
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I think the one thing that stuck out from Dungy's comments to me was that, unlike most of the people that discussed it, Dungy appeared to take a "holier than thou" attitude.

99% of the people discussing it admitted that 1) it's was a pretty trivial matter, and probably wouldn't have added any advantage whatsoever for hte game, and 2) that looking for signals is something just about every coach/team has done in some way shape or form in the past.

Dungy didn't discuss any of that. Just labeled this one incident as a "dark day for the NFL". That was the part of his stuff that annoyed me. If that's the case, then then "simulating the snap" penalty against the Chargers could be considered a dark day for the NFL too. It was a direct violation of the rule in an attempt to gain an advantage.
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Oh, and for the record, I'd like to add my vote to de-assclown DS too. I think the point was made, and received.
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Perhaps Dungy doesn't feel that an NFL coach commenting on a NFL incident that is all over the news is "piling it on."



"Vulnerable?" How so? He made his bed, he has to lie in it. I simply don't understand the justification by you and Lisa (I believe) that says Dungy opens himself up to criticism by sharing his religious beliefs publicly, but Belichick somehow can't be criticized for getting caught blatantly violating rules the Commissioner sent a memo about just days before. Can or can not a coach be criticized for his actions?



I didn't say he shouldn't, or that he was morally wrong for doing so, I said that I "wished he hadn't" or at the time, "wished/hoped he wouldn't."

You can disagree with what he did, but it's the intent of Dungy that shows his true character. If honestly think that he thought he was twisting the knife in BB's back, then you're opinion on this is valid. I don't, however, think Dungy thought that at all. He was actually complimentary of several players by name.
I'm not going to engage in a substantive discussion in the AA. I disagree with what you've written here, but I don't think it's fair that I'm relegated to the AA for substantive discussion, so I'm not going to participate.

And Annilus, I do get the message but don't think I should have to go through a cooling off period to prove it. And I should not have called you an idiot. I was frustrated.

It's obviously your call on whether that's enough to reinsate me. I'm disappointed that you or one of the others haven't done that already and hope one of you will soon.
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ďThat just goes to show you how emotional I am about playing here, being here, and understanding what it means to be a Patriot,Ē Faulk said. ďI was talking with David Patten this morning, and we were talking about other guys who left the organization . . . and speaking with those guys, they always say, ĎKev, itís not greener on the other side of the fence.í Listening to those guys, I know Iím in a great situation, Iíve been here, I know whatís going on. Thatís why Iím here.Ē
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