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Old 01-08-2008, 11:56 PM   #226
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Originally posted by PatsFan09* on 01-08-2008 at 09:21 PM
He's out to make a statement, and he crucified the Patriots and BB to further his agenda.

BB ignored 's memo, and so punished him for THAT, not so much the actual taping of signals.

Btw, if stated that there was nothing on those tapes that implicated the Patriots, why'd he fine them so much?
You Truly can't be serious ???? Can you ???? This is the most obserd thing I hear yet & 4 months later ... OUCH!!!!

Yea thats it...he used BB to further the career he already had...Holy Crap Batman !!! don't swear Robin !!!

So BB didn't get fined at all for having illegal sideline cameras taping & stealing opponants signals that is specifivcally aginst the NFL: By-Laws !!!

I knew that had nothing to do with all the ruckus...because I heard more than a few people actually say they think BB did all this on purpose to inspire his team...Everyone that didn't piss themselves laughing hysterically heaing that...should tell a Doctor & they will guide you the rest of the way

So PatFan...just for more Shits & Giggles...can you tell me what exactlyGoodwell ment in this letter...define the words...calculated-deliberate-rules-fair play-honest competition


"This episode represents a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid long-standing rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field," said in a letter to the Patriots.
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Old 01-09-2008, 12:06 AM   #227
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Originally posted by tmack on 01-08-2008 at 07:50 PM
Taping defensive signals from the stands isn't legal either.
You can't even bring in a picture camera in the stands...they will escort you out or conviscate it...

When the NFL decided to ban cameras on sideline, Booths & locker room...its anywhere accessable to the coaching staff.

Everyone is forgetting the main reason for this rule & on purpose in the media because it details the distinct advantage BB had...That camera is 10' away from him & his staff on the sideline

I crack up hearing about everyone filming in the stands & the End Zone were the Jets lost a previous permission granted in Gillette...no one has access 10' away from the coaching staff...

Thats the real advantage...
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:37 PM   #228
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No, DS, Tmack has more than proven all of his points. He's used multiple sources. He has facts. This is where the frustration comes in with you.

You've stated the same opinions over and over again. You keep using the same people who said BB's infraction was "no big deal" but ignore the fact that those people have violated the same rule. Well, of course, they're going to say it's not a big deal.

I've more than explained to you why I believe you to be biased and irrational. You fire back with, "No, you just disagree with me and so you're calling me irrational." That's not the case and I'm done arguing with you. As I said in the last PM to you, I believe your views on Dungy to be irrational. Obviously, I don't agree with you. I disagree with people on this board all of the time and I rarely ever call anyone irrational. In fact, it's usually you.

So, you win. There's no point in going round and round in circles. If Tmack wants to keep up the good fight then all of the power to him. I'm out.
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:00 PM   #229
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I crack up hearing about everyone filming in the stands & the End Zone were the Jets lost a previous permission granted in Gillette...no one has access 10' away from the coaching staff...

You do realize with technology you could be 10' away or in the endzone and still be able to view a transmited signal?

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Old 01-09-2008, 03:11 PM   #230
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You do realize you can with technology you could be 10' away or in the endzone and still be able to view a transmited signal?
Therick...seriously how old are you? I really need to know before If you want me to continue responding to your obsurd comments
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:14 PM   #231
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Therick...seriously how old are you? I really need to know before If you want me to continue responding to your obsurd comments


Hey shit head - I noticed you skipped the comments in the Brady thread that make you look stupid...
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:23 PM   #232
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No, DS, Tmack has more than proven all of his points. He's used multiple sources. He has facts. This is where the frustration comes in with you.

You've stated the same opinions over and over again. You keep using the same people who said BB's infraction was "no big deal" but ignore the fact that those people have violated the same rule. Well, of course, they're going to say it's not a big deal.

I've more than explained to you why I believe you to be biased and irrational. You fire back with, "No, you just disagree with me and so you're calling me irrational." That's not the case and I'm done arguing with you. As I said in the last PM to you, I believe your views on Dungy to be irrational. Obviously, I don't agree with you. I disagree with people on this board all of the time and I rarely ever call anyone irrational. In fact, it's usually you.

So, you win. There's no point in going round and round in circles. If Tmack wants to keep up the good fight then all of the power to him. I'm out.
I don't care if you are frustrated or you are out.

TMack has one fact. His fact is that the $500,000 fine was the largest in NFL history. Yay.

Everything else in this discussion, on both sides, is an opinion.

It's not a fact that it's OK or not OK for Dungy to talk negatively about BB during the media storm, for example. Any view on that is an opinion, no matter what your opinion is.

It's not a fact that what Belichick did was a serious offense. And the fact that there was a big fine with the max finanancial penalty doesn't make it so. It certainly supports your opinion, but in the end, whether the existence of a big fine transforms the offense into a serious one is still a matter of opinion.

If it makes you feel good to say that I'm irrational for having an opinion on these things that is different than yours or TMack's or Jaric's, or that I would applaud if Belichick did exactly what Dungy did if things were reversed (as you said before), that's your perogative.

I know that I am expressing opinions that are contrary to your opinions, I think think there is a rational basis for my views, I know that others share my views and I know that in my personal and professional life, that I am almost exclusively perceived as an intelligent, rational person. That you disagree with me is of no moment, because your contention that having a view that is different than yours makes me irrational is, itself, irrational.
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:25 PM   #233
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You can't even bring in a picture camera in the stands...they will escort you out or conviscate it...

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Hrm I wonder why I have numerous shots of so many of us in teh stands then> That is an incorrects statement.

The crux of this too is that the words "no competitive advantage was gained" is in that ruling. Makes it pretty clear cut to someone who's brain isn't dysfunctional due to unbridled hate.
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Hrm I wonder why I have numerous shots of so many of us in teh stands then> That is an incorrects statement.

The crux of this too is that the words "no competitive advantage was gained" is in that ruling. Makes it pretty clear cut to someone who's brain isn't dysfunctional due to unbridled hate.
Just a warning Paz, be careful venturing into here. Read too much and your brain may explode.
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Hey shit head - I noticed you skipped the comments in the Brady thread that make you look stupid...
How old are you ?
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:29 PM   #236
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Hrm I wonder why I have numerous shots of so many of us in teh stands then> That is an incorrects statement.

The crux of this too is that the words "no competitive advantage was gained" is in that ruling. Makes it pretty clear cut to someone who's brain isn't dysfunctional due to unbridled hate.
Yea those cell phone 3 ' pictures are pretty hi tec ....pleas don't make me laugh...
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Just a warning Paz, be careful venturing into here. Read too much and your brain may explode.
The truth really hurts you guys alot more than i even imagined !
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You can bring cameras into the stadium. I do it every game. A regular old full size digital camera that takes video. They are totally allowed and noone will turn you away or confiscate it. "Lee" wouldn't know that though as he doesn't actually ever go to a game in person.
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I saw Dungy in a news conference last night on NFL Network and tried to look at him as a genuine, nice person who just went a little too far with his "dark day" blather. I couldn't. He can't suffer enough for my tastes.
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I saw Dungy in a news conference last night on NFL Network and tried to look at him as a genuine, nice person who just went a little too far with his "dark day" blather. I couldn't. He can't suffer enough for my tastes.
A fun discussion from September, including most of the principals from this thread.

http://www.soxplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2573

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