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View Poll Results: Do you trust Elixir Guerrero?
Yes, with all my heart 4 13.33%
No, he's a bad man Boss 9 30.00%
not sure but Something stinks in the septic tank 13 43.33%
Thomas is Alex, Elixir is Thomas144 and Spaghetti Monster controls him 6 20.00%
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Old 06-09-2018, 06:40 AM   #106
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Damn, this non-story gained legs quickly here.
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Old 06-09-2018, 07:20 AM   #107
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Damn, this non-story gained legs quickly here.

What do you mean by non-story? Did I miss something?

I think that it is significant enough for discussion based on what I know, but I don't understand the reddit references that I've seen in this thread.

If this is fake news then please illuminate me.
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Old 06-09-2018, 09:13 AM   #108
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What do you mean by non-story? Did I miss something?

I think that it is significant enough for discussion based on what I know, but I don't understand the reddit references that I've seen in this thread.

If this is fake news then please illuminate me.
Totally fake.

Edelmanís suspension is real. A guy on Reddit caught a sniff of something, guessed correctly, and was the first to post it. He guessed right. Instant cred.

So then he decided to play Fvck-Fvck with the media. Same guy listing he had bombshell to drop. Major media buy in. Pins and needles. And he drops the Gronk trade and the internet nearly breaks.

And he sits back and watched and listens to people make absolute fools of themselves.
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Totally fake.

Edelmanís suspension is real. A guy on Reddit caught a sniff of something, guessed correctly, and was the first to post it. He guessed right. Instant cred.

So then he decided to play Fvck-Fvck with the media. Same guy listing he had bombshell to drop. Major media buy in. Pins and needles. And he drops the Gronk trade and the internet nearly breaks.




And he sits back and watched and listens to people make absolute fools of themselves.


Literally a story was made up that said Bill and kraft jad closed door meeting and brady threatened to retire if gronk was traded. Problem was kraft and bill were not in the same state and bill was at the zoo with his wife.
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I donít know his role in the Edelman saga but Iíve said from the start that heís an idiot and not far from a snake oil salesman. Heís a perfect representation of Ďnew ageí fitness that ticks boxes but isnít anything new nor groundbreaking. And most of it is rejected by actual high level athletic coaches.

So not sure if heís juicing dudes or whatever but I wouldnít be shocked. I hope heís out of the picture once Tom retires.






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And this is why he made a statement. No ped has ever been linked to any player who has taken anything he has told them to take. Yet the assumption right off the start was oh wait edelman worked out with him, he must be giving it to them. If you own a company who someone falsly accuses of something that can hurt your bottom line, you will make a statement too.
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I don't know much about "the guru"...but, if he is helping Brady, he is already having breakthrough type results. Why are most of you so closed minded about this? What if he really is on the cusp of something big?

Is the modern day healthcare system saving everyone already? FUCK NO is the answer. Rhetorical question obviously...all they are about is mliking everyone and charging way more than they deserve. It's a joke.

Let the guy prove himself a little before the pitchfork poke...

Healthcare/science/advancements are all related.
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I don't know much about "the guru"...but, if he is helping Brady, he is already having breakthrough type results. Why are most of you so closed minded about this? What if he really is on the cusp of something big?

Is the modern day healthcare system saving everyone already? FUCK NO is the answer. Rhetorical question obviously...all they are about is mliking everyone and charging way more than they deserve. It's a joke.

Let the guy prove himself a little before the pitchfork poke...

Healthcare/science/advancements are all related.
I agree.

I donít think Tom is stupid. Heís bought in and itís so evident the results are working for him that I cannot fathom how people with a functioning brain can doubt it all.

Curran is right. There is a wave of media and people that are begging for Guerrero to crash and burn. What ever happened to a guy moving on from past mistakes and moving forward?
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Rhetorical question obviously...all they are about is mliking everyone and charging way more than they deserve. It's a joke.
You should take a gander at the TB12 method prices.
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You should take a gander at the TB12 method prices.
Celebrity prices are all off kilter...so, you do have a point.

But, the info is what I was making a point about.

How much does a bandaid cost at the hospital? For comparison...

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Also, is there any info on what the NFL approves/disapproves? A list? This is kind of important in this whole topic.
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I agree.

I donít think Tom is stupid. Heís bought in and itís so evident the results are working for him that I cannot fathom how people with a functioning brain can doubt it all.

Curran is right. There is a wave of media and people that are begging for Guerrero to crash and burn. What ever happened to a guy moving on from past mistakes and moving forward?
Of course they are because there is a classic tale to be properly told of the evil wizard casting a spell on the noble King which opens a hole for the Goblin army to take over. There are all the elements that a scribe with a poison pen wet dreams about: Machiavellian treachery, innocence lost, skullduggery, an ideal, peaceful Kingdom turned into a wretched mudhole filled with despair and all because of one little problem:

Brady fucked up. He trusted him. And he should have known better.

I'll be shocked if the media can't find a way to work cruelty to a Golden Retriever puppy into the story.

This situation is far from over. Guerrero better be extremely careful because there are people who would profit greatly from his undoing and it wouldn't take a whole lot for the buzzards to swoop down to pick his bones clean.
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Of course they are because there is a classic tale to be properly told of the evil wizard casting a spell on the noble King which opens a hole for the Goblin army to take over. There are all the elements that a scribe with a poison pen wet dreams about: Machiavellian treachery, innocence lost, skullduggery, an ideal, peaceful Kingdom turned into a wretched mudhole filled with despair and all because of one little problem:

Brady fucked up. He trusted him. And he should have known better.

I'll be shocked if the media can't find a way to work cruelty to a Golden Retriever puppy into the story.

This situation is far from over. Guerrero better be extremely careful because there are people who would profit greatly from his undoing and it wouldn't take a whole lot for the buzzards to swoop down to pick his bones clean.


If there has to be lies and deceit to take someone down, then not sure its something I want to be against. This is a giant media blow up over a freaking training facility that seems to be doing a lot more for the health of the pats players than their own facility which leaves a trail of broken bodies by seasons end where were are all screaming about injuries. People are hoping for a fall, and doing everything they can to lie to get their way but in the end this is about Media and its unrelenting attempt to get a blood story from the most talked about team, nothing more, nothing less.
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If there has to be lies and deceit to take someone down, then not sure its something I want to be against. This is a giant media blow up over a freaking training facility that seems to be doing a lot more for the health of the pats players than their own facility which leaves a trail of broken bodies by seasons end where were are all screaming about injuries. People are hoping for a fall, and doing everything they can to lie to get their way but in the end this is about Media and its unrelenting attempt to get a blood story from the most talked about team, nothing more, nothing less.
https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/...ero-neurosafe/

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/...uerrero-fraud/

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/...-investigated/

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He said his name was Dr. Alejandro Guerrero, and he had incredible news.
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At his California clinic, Dr. Guerrero had been testing a nutritional supplement that—he claimed, according to affidavits filed in federal court—produced miraculous results. He said he’d conducted “clinical studies” of 200 patients who’d been diagnosed as terminally ill. They were suffering from ailments such as cancer, AIDS, multiple sclerosis, and Parkinson’s disease. And eight years later, all but eight had survived.
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Those weren’t the only extraordinary claims Dr. Guerrero made. He also “promoted the product as, among other things, an effective treatment, cure, and preventative for cancer, heart disease, arthritis, and diabetes, and as a means of achieving substantial weight loss of up to 80 pounds in 8 months,” according to a complaint filed by the Federal Trade Commission. In addition, the FTC noted, Guerrero and his associates “claimed that Supreme Greens can be taken safely by pregnant women, children—including children as young as one year old—and any person taking any type of medication.
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If anyone cared to look closely, however, there were a couple of problems with Dr. Alejandro Guerrero’s claims. First, he wasn’t a doctor of any kind—not a medical doctor, as he admitted in the infomercial—or a doctor of Oriental medicine, as he claimed to business associates, according to a sworn affidavit. The FTC would eventually bar Guerrero from ever again referring to himself as a doctor. In truth, Guerrero’s degree was a master’s in Chinese medicine from a college in California that no longer exists.

The other problem, of course, was that Alejandro Guerrero’s Supreme Greens was a sham. Total nonsense. Modern-day snake oil. “This is just out and out quackery,” says Barrie Cassileth, a bona-fide PhD in medical sociology and the founder of the Integrative Medicine Service at the Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, who helped the FTC investigate Supreme Greens.

Turns out, Supreme Greens had never been scientifically tested. The “study”—the one in which Guerrero claimed that 192 terminally ill patients had survived thanks to Supreme Greens—never actually existed, he later admitted. The FTC found not a shred of evidence that Supreme Greens could cure or prevent cancer, AIDS, MS, Parkinson’s, or any of the other ailments Guerrero had mentioned.
No. No. No.

Stop pretending that this is some reputable guy with a bad rap, or all this stuff happened 'a long time ago'. Brady was endorsing Neurosafe as late as 2011.

Brady's dumb enough to get sucked into a cult - fine, but that doesn't mean the rest of us have to lemming off the cliff with him.

He should never have been allowed within 10 miles of the stadium. KRAFT fucked up.
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Doctors never read the fine print for the crap that they peddle from their big pharma stream of income...
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I'm sorry, but anyone who promotes a benign food supplement as helping to cure cancer or aids or any myriad of serious illnesses is scum, pure and simple. These people prey on the extremely vulnerable, on very sick people who are desperate, along with their families, to try anything to save themselves from an horrific end. There's a special place in hell for those people.

Shame on Brady for associating himself with this charlatan snake oil salesman.
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