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Old 10-11-2017, 09:55 AM   #16
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I don't get it either. I can't understand why anyone would want to join a frat. I would never be friends with people that can treat other people like that.

There's no good reason for frats to continue to exist.
Because not all fraternities are like that.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:07 AM   #17
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Because not all fraternities are like that.
I suppose. The entire concept of frats are still silly to me, but I have never had an issue making friends in new places. Frats might make that process easier for some when they go to college.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:13 AM   #18
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Why kids participate in this shit (including those being hazed) is beyond me.
It's the same thing that makes kids take terrible beat downs to get into gangs. Going through some kind of physical ordeal for entry into the club. If the urge to belong to a group is strong enough, enduring the membership rite of initiation is a time-honored tradition.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:31 AM   #19
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I suppose. The entire concept of frats are still silly to me, but I have never had an issue making friends in new places. Frats might make that process easier for some when they go to college.
If one believes fraternity bros are real friends, because they are "brothers" he has other issues.
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All I watch on Saturdays is Big 10 football and Siemian had 2, maybe 3, good games during his entire college career. Those games came against really weak defenses. I still can't believe he is even in the NFL. He is one of the four worst starting QBs in the league. Goff, Bortles, Osweiler, and Siemian. Both Osweiler and Bortles will be benched this year. Hell, Bortles probably won't even start over Henne come week 1.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:32 AM   #20
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I suppose. The entire concept of frats are still silly to me, but I have never had an issue making friends in new places. Frats might make that process easier for some when they go to college.
They aren't for everybody. Heck, I didn't want anything to do with the Greek system until a group of down-to-earth guys found me and asked me to consider joining.

I will say that the father in this story has remarkable self-control. If anything like this ever happened to one of my sons, I'd want to be there tearing down that house brick by mother****ing brick with my bare hands.
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:01 AM   #21
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I suppose. The entire concept of frats are still silly to me, but I have never had an issue making friends in new places. Frats might make that process easier for some when they go to college.
I got invited to a party and decided to stick around.

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Old 10-11-2017, 11:38 AM   #22
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I got invited to a party and decided to stick around.

I had a couple friends in frats. Went to a few parties because they invited me. Had fun, but never as good as a house party. Other members of the frat consistently tried to get me to join, but there were too many douches. I liked a decent amount of the guys in that frat, but I am not good at pretending to like someone that I don't. I would never have pulled off the "brotherhood" crap.
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had a co-op on pledge, the kid was put on sleep deprivation and would fall asleep standing at the Island in the middle of our office. Bruises and stuff all the time - I told him I would have fought back, in no way is dealing with that stuff worth it.

I fear they are actually more twisted.
Cause, you know, Garden of Eden aand all that.

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Old 10-11-2017, 12:34 PM   #24
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Because not all fraternities are like that.
no they are not, sleep deprivation is not a bad thing unless you are paying for a co-op who can actually do some work. I feared for him driving back to school.

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They aren't for everybody. Heck, I didn't want anything to do with the Greek system until a group of down-to-earth guys found me and asked me to consider joining.

I will say that the father in this story has remarkable self-control. If anything like this ever happened to one of my sons, I'd want to be there tearing down that house brick by mother****ing brick with my bare hands.
no some are just cheap housing for kids.

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Cause, you know, Garden of Eden aand all that.

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Old 10-11-2017, 03:20 PM   #25
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I had a couple friends in frats. Went to a few parties because they invited me. Had fun, but never as good as a house party. Other members of the frat consistently tried to get me to join, but there were too many douches. I liked a decent amount of the guys in that frat, but I am not good at pretending to like someone that I don't. I would never have pulled off the "brotherhood" crap.
The house parties at IU always got the cops called.

I have no idea how representative my experience was, but there was maybe 2-3 guys I didn't care for out of maybe 80? It's easy enough to just ignore them and it never was an issue.
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