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Old 10-10-2017, 07:52 PM   #16
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The scene in the trailer where a metal hand rises up from the fiery ruins of a building had me wondering. I don't recall seeing that scene in The Force Awakens, but Han said Luke had gone into hiding after one of his students turned to the dark side and burned down the Jedi temple. I'm guessing Luke was training his nephew, Ben. Like grandfather, like grandson, maybe.
They have teased the whole "Kylo burns down Lukes new Jedi academy/temple thing" and that has to be Lukes hand, so he was apparently buried under part of it? in The Force Awakens they say it was destroyed but all we see is Luke put his hand on R2 while we see some ashes/embers.
in the first teaser we see the burning bulling.

that was an intriguing shot in the latest trailer.
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interesting.... coincidence...

(from this story: http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...ssive-11327293 )
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They have teased the whole "Kylo burns down Lukes new Jedi academy/temple thing" and that has to be Lukes hand, so he was apparently buried under part of it? in The Force Awakens they say it was destroyed but all we see is Luke put his hand on R2 while we see some ashes/embers.
in the first teaser we see the burning bulling.

that was an intriguing shot in the latest trailer.
I will have to rewatch FA. I only recall Luke's cameo at the end.
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I will have to rewatch FA. I only recall Luke's cameo at the end.
During Rey's "force vision" she see's Luke put his hand on R2D2. it's a quick shot. it's also in the last trailer for TFA
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As an aside, I was just staying on the west coast of Ireland and toured the Dingle peninsula, which is not only one of the most beautiful places I've even been, but was one of the sets for The Force Awakens and also the new film based on the trailer.

That striking, pointy island where we see Luke Skywalker at the end of TFA is known as Skellig Michael and it is located just off the Dingle coast. The crew also built a set on the mainland featuring "beehive" stone houses which not only look cool, but are actually copies of real and ancient beehive houses and other structures that are sprinkled around the area.

I think these are real beehives in the pic below with Skellig Michael in the background. I just figured it was worth mentioning this for Star Wars geeks and there are tours available if you're ever in the neighborhood. I did pick up a tee shirt which has "The Force Awakens" in gaelic with some nice graphics, but didn't have a chance to do the tour thing and visit the island.
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As an aside, I was just staying on the west coast of Ireland and toured the Dingle peninsula, which is not only one of the most beautiful places I've even been, but was one of the sets for The Force Awakens and also the new film based on the trailer.

That striking, pointy island where we see Luke Skywalker at the end of TFA is known as Skellig Michael and it is located just off the Dingle coast. The crew also built a set on the mainland featuring "beehive" stone houses which not only look cool, but are actually copies of real and ancient beehive houses and other structures that are sprinkled around the area.

I think these are real beehives in the pic below with Skellig Michael in the background. I just figured it was worth mentioning this for Star Wars geeks and there are tours available if you're ever in the neighborhood. I did pick up a tee shirt which has "The Force Awakens" in gaelic with some nice graphics, but didn't have a chance to do the tour thing and visit the island.
That is interesting, sometimes don't know what is real versus fake on the Star Wars settings. Does that island have all those steps? I would not have thought of Ireland as the setting either.
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New Trailer drops tonight during halftime of Bears - Vikes.
I'm looking forward to this movie a lot based on all I've been hearing how Rian Johnson taken the story into a direction even the actors didn't expect.

And if anyone caught the Star Wars marathon that was on TBS or TNT (one of those) the last few days.... The Empire Strikes Back is clearly the best movie of the series. A New Hope was the first one and the 2nd best, but Empire is clearly numero uno.

As for The Force Awakens, I really like that one and liked it more on extra viewings, but it seems to be the "in thing" to claim it sucked??
(in reading comments on other sites about the SW movies)

I liked Rogue One too.
I would put Rogue One as third best.

I liked the first two movies the most...Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. Beyond that, the only good thing in any of the more recent movies was Darth Maul. Everything else after Empire Strikes Back has been just awful...until Rogue One. I was shocked that I actually liked it.

Oh..and I especially can't stand this new Darth dude. STOP CRYING! There's no crying on the Dark Side!

You'd never see Darth Maul crying, I guarantee you that.

Oh...by the way...how many death stars are we up to now? Nothing like originality. What's next....probably a fleet of death stars, because that seems to be the only trick in the book for George Lucas.
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I would put Rogue One as third best.

I liked the first two movies the most...Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. Beyond that, the only good thing in any of the more recent movies was Darth Maul. Everything else after Empire Strikes Back has been just awful...until Rogue One. I was shocked that I actually liked it.

Oh..and I especially can't stand this new Darth dude. STOP CRYING! There's no crying on the Dark Side!

You'd never see Darth Maul crying, I guarantee you that.

Oh...by the way...how many death stars are we up to now? Nothing like originality. What's next....probably a fleet of death stars, because that seems to be the only trick in the book for George Lucas.
Economically unlikely, at least according to this study.

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Zachary Feinstein, a professor at Washington University in St. Louis, published a study of the financial impact of the events in the Star Wars films on the economy of the fictional galaxy.

With tongue almost certainly in cheek, Feinstein wrote the paper exactly as you would any other academic finding.

"In this paper we study the financial repercussions of the destruction of two fully armed and operational moon-sized battle stations (“Death Stars”) in a 4-year period and the dissolution of the galactic government in Star Wars," began the abstract of the study.

"The emphasis of this work is to calibrate and simulate a model of the banking and financial systems within the galaxy. Along these lines, we measure the level of systemic risk that may have been generated by the death of Emperor Palpatine and the destruction of the second Death Star."

With full on footnotes and in-text citations to "Lucas" and "Kershner" (the screenwriters of Star Wars, George and Irvin respectively), Feinstein found that the destruction of the Death Stars and collapse of the Galactic Empire would throw the galactic economy into chaos.

"In this case study we found that the Rebel Alliance would need to prepare a bailout of at least 15%, and likely at least 20%, of [Gross Galactic Product] in order to mitigate the systemic risks and the sudden and catastrophic economic collapse," said the study. "Without such funds at the ready, it likely the Galactic economy would enter an economic depression of astronomical proportions."

The scale of the Galactic economy, as modeled by Feinstein, is massive. Average Gross Galactic Product, similar to our GDP, during the 20 year reign of the Empire is around $4.6 sextillion a year. For reference, a sextillion is a 1 followed by 21 zeros (in the US) and 59 million times the Earth's 2014 GDP.

Feinstein estimates that based on the cost of building the Death Stars, loans from the Galactic Banking system and a fiscally conservative Emperor, the government would default on $515.5 quintillion (1 and 18 zeroes in the US) in bonds.

This would then cause the galactic banking system to collapse, necessitating a bailout as over 1,700 banks would be "too big to fail."

As mentioned by Feinstein, this would again be a problem as the central government structure would most likely collapse after the death of the Emperor and the "scrappy underdogs", as Feinstein says, of the Rebel Alliance would be unlikely to pick up the slack.

Based on all of this analysis, maybe we should have been rooting for Darth Vader after all.
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I think cousins. I am hopeful she is Luke's daughter. He's been all over the galaxy. Don't tell me he didn't hit some strange alien bootie along the way. She has tremendous Force ability with no training at all. She has to be descended from someone greatly powerful. If not Luke, then who? Don't tell me the Emperor did another immaculate conception with some mitochlorian again. If they are brother/sister, kept apart until their 20's, that would be so Return of the Jedi. I think Kylo is trying to finish what Vader started, but failed at, in eliminating the Jedi. That dude is pure evil. This could be an epic film. I'm looking forward to it.
Luke lost his light saber hand (wink wink), Darth spawned her and her brother from the hand, they are his kid via a test tube. this explains why the light saber was attracted to her. He calls Darth father because it was Darth who did it raising him to take over the world and he exiled the weak link, the chick, in a sexist move since she is of the weaker sex.

this shows sexism is alive and kicking in the future.
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Economically unlikely, at least according to this study.
Besides, imagine the cost of insuring them all after you've already had 3 get blown up.
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I liked Rogue One a lot

I also admit I liked the animated series "The Clone Wars" (lots of battles) and it took a bit to warm up to... "Rebels". Clearly Rebels was aimed at smaller kids at first (being on Disney XD) but the brought in Maul (he dropped the Darth title), Darth Vader, Ahsoka and they have done tie-in's with Rogue One.... expect more this final season (they are wrapping it up) as this will lead right up to the timeline of Rogue One movie
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That is interesting, sometimes don't know what is real versus fake on the Star Wars settings. Does that island have all those steps? I would not have thought of Ireland as the setting either.
There is a story that Star Wars location manager sent a team of scouts out to find something suitable and when he saw a photo of skellig michael he knew immediately that was what he wanted. He loved it.

I checked and both the steps and those beehive huts are not movie sets. There are 600 steps that lead up to an 6th century monastery near the summit and the monks that once inhabited the island would climb them every day to go fishing.

It's a perfect spot for a Jedi Knight to get some solitude. In fact, St. Michael the Archangel -- who the island was named after-- was something like a Jedi himself as a healer and soldier who battled the forces of evil.

Next time I go there I'm taking the boat over and climbing up to that monastery as a ton of star wars fans have. The movie has been a big boost to tourism for the area based on what a local told me. The whole place has sort of a magical look and feel to it.

Here's a shot of the monastery:
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My wife will be interested in that monastery photo.

I like telling my wife, "On Patriots Planet, the center of the known universe, they were saying,,,,,"

And the wife goes "huh??, Oh yea, they talk about other things don't they."
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I like telling my wife, "On Patriots Planet, the center of the known universe, they were saying,,,,,"

And the wife goes "huh??, Oh yea, they talk about other things don't they."
Well, I can tell you that it's not just skellig michael that is impressive. On the same peninsula (Dingle) there is a shitload of really amazing scenery along with ancient buildings, ruins, churches, you name it. Ireland is a great place to see, but that area was probably my favorite. It has a sort of otherworldliness about it.
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