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Did I say nothing happened? I said that things were different back then and that women sometimes did things to further their own agendas, who are now having regrets.
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Rape? Highly unlikely. Sex? Absolutely, no doubt whatsoever. There's a difference. These women have short memories, IMO, regrets, and a leader in Allred of epic proportions pulling the bandwagon that they're all jumping on. |
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So many of the accusers have answered the key Q, "Why now, not then?" with the extremely convenient "He's a big celeb. No one would have believed me." That may be true, for some, if these things did happen. But all these woman ALL letting him walk after being raped? I have trouble with that. Because it makes their claim questionable by it's very nature and because by not coming out when it happened it denied Cosby the opporunity to put on any kind of meaningful defense. The fact that ALL statutes of limitation have passed also means that none of the accusers need fear any meaningful cross-examination in a court of law where the accused has the constitutional right to confront his accusers. I wonder how many "bandwagon Victims are in the cluster None? One? A few? A lot? Almost all? How do we assess the Allred Gender feminist effect? A strident voice in search of victims and money. And the obliging media who's point of view is "the more the merrier". Guilty (let him rot) or not, Cosby is screwed. Add to that your point about the "times" and it's even worse. The Gender Feminist and the Media will not engage in any meaningful examination of the nuance. http://www.menweb.org/paglsomm.htm PS, for anyone interested in the distinctions in the feminist viewpoint here's a very interesting and lengthy convo w/wattenberg almost exactly 20 years ago with the famous equity Feminists Cristina Hoff Sommers and Camille Paglia. They are far from a majority view. To the contrary, The majority of the big name Feminist leaders condemn their viewpoint and are definately in line against them. This transcript is not directly relevent to the Cosby case other than my suspicion that the gender feminst mindsets (i.e. Women good, men bad, take no prisoners) may have a strong impact on matters such as this. It's here mostly cause I think it's a great read. Paglia is a great writer and a great thinker. Sommer's signature work, "Who stole Feminism?" was in many ways the starting point for the anti-feminist backlash. Rambling done for the moment. Cheers, BostonTim |
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I'll take the time to read the link a little later. For me, there are so many leaky parts to this entire avalanche of claims that it's just nothing more than a smear campaign. As I said, and I think you've agreed, Tim, the times were different. They just were, and it's a fact. I think it's sad that this elderly man, who really has done so much in the way of educating his own race and promoting education for children, amongst so many other things, is now being looked at as though he were a Nazi being discovered for war crimes decades later.
And again, I hear "Allred" and want to scream. This woman has done so much damage to so many people to get her red-suited body on camera, it makes me want to see unthinkable harm come to her. She's no better than Sharpton, rallying the masses without giving the public the true circumstances, preying on emotions rather than facts. It really just sickens me. |
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Totally agree...it is peculiar why this is all happening right now (Cosby wanted to have his big comeback now and this happens).
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All of this type of bullshit is orchestrated. I'm not sure who did this to him, or why....but it's clearly a well oiled machine designed to smear a man whom has tried to help blacks succeed for decades.
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To me many took to furthering their career, but I do no think all. I think he took advantage of his celeb status to get what he wants, any way he could.
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Possibly, Mikie. But I think it's also possible that, to use your words, many took advantage of his celeb status to get what they wanted, or at least hoped for, too.
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Interesting how it all happened now though. He planned on making a big comeback now. Ironic?
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Not ironic. Someone pissed off enough to start a shitstorm.
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That's why I'm calling bullshit on the claims of rape. I have no doubt there was sex. At a time when sex with famous people gave you a badge of honor. No one is going to convince me that he's some sort of Marquis de Sade. Those women had sex with him just like groupies who had sex with repugnant asshole rock stars, such as Ted Nugent.
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I saw photos of him banging a school mate. Some things can't be unseen ...lol
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Tina fey called him a rapist twice. Once on a weekend update on snl and another time on 30 rock.
This was years ago when the rutgers stuff happened. |
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