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Old 08-13-2008, 01:25 PM   #16
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Yes and Brady is not close to Marino....next
Are you retarded? I asked for 5 hall of famers and neither of you two morons can come up with 5, aikman is not close. give me 5.
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Are you retarded? I asked for 5 hall of famers and neither of you two morons can come up with 5, aikman is not close. give me 5.
Are you retarded? You didn't ask me? You asked D22. So does that make you a retard?
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He had just as many as Brady had his first 6 seasons...."ZERO"
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Are you retarded? You didn't ask me? You asked D22. So does that make you a retard?


You are the one comparing brady with aikman bitchboy. Aikman was nowhere near brady and then you threw in your brady is not close to marino, which its not far at all.

Marino
1866-3100 23856 yards 196 td's 103 ints 91 Qb rating.
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1895-3061 21564 yards 147 td's 78 ints 89 Qb rating


So we have 1 who has more numbers than brady even though he had a ton more ints and less completion pct, but we have 1.
only 4 more guys.
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Not if you use choking in the post season as the measuring stick.. then Marino stands alone as the great one.. the most prolific chokingess QB to ever play in the NFL.

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Not if you use choking in the post season as the measuring stick.. then Marino stands alone as the great one.. the most prolific chokingess QB to ever play in the NFL.

No brady is close still even before bradys big season. I'm still waiting for 5 hall of famers. I mean d22 says brady is not shit but cannot find 5 hall of famers with better first 6 years stats. He is getting owned in this thread and its funny.
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Nobody is close to Marino when it comes to choking.. the guy was the master. Name just one other QB who supposedly was a prolific passer but failed to advance his team in the playoffs every season, after season, after season...

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No brady is close still even before bradys big season. I'm still waiting for 5 hall of famers. I mean d22 says brady is not shit but cannot find 5 hall of famers with better first 6 years stats. He is getting owned in this thread and its funny.
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Nobody is close to Marino when it comes to choking.. the guy was the master. Name just one other QB who supposedly was a prolific passer but failed to advance his team in the playoffs every season, after season, after season...


I dont know, but d22 couldnt come up with 5 hall of fame Qb's with better stats than brady, so fail. So I guess when he says brady sucks, he is saying everyone in the hall of fame sucks.
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out of sheer morbid curiosity, what are you using as a measuring stick for the hall fame players who played in the 14 regular season era?
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out of sheer morbid curiosity, what are you using as a measuring stick for the hall fame players who played in the 14 regular season era?
Dumb dumb22 is coming up with a complex formula that will take this very problem into consideration....I'm sure whatever it is Brady will still suck and Marino will still be the 'greatest pure jackass' evahhh..
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out of sheer morbid curiosity, what are you using as a measuring stick for the hall fame players who played in the 14 regular season era?


Not sure, what should I use? Most of the modern era Qb's played in 16. I guess we can have a notation for games played but most stats wise are not great anyway. Don't worry though, bradshaw in his first 6 years is not close if you gave him 20 games.
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Dumb dumb22 is coming up with a complex formula that will take this very problem into consideration....I'm sure whatever it is Brady will still suck and Marino will still be the 'greatest pure jackass' evahhh..

we could take number of games they played. Brady played in 94 games to that point.
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Not sure, what should I use? Most of the modern era Qb's played in 16. I guess we can have a notation for games played but most stats wise are not great anyway. Don't worry though, bradshaw in his first 6 years is not close if you gave him 20 games.
I have no clue as I said I was only asking outta curiosity as 16 is > 14
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I have no clue as I said I was only asking outta curiosity as 16 is > 14


Well we have not compared anyone with that issue yet, but I guess we can do Qb rating, thats pretty much same no matter how many games or like I said take the 14 game players same number of games which would take them into the 7th year. If it comes up then I will do it, but none of the 14 games Qb's look even close.
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The problem is, midgar wants to compare greatest QB's of all time, but he does not want to include their era. I can argue Otto Graham is the greatest QB of all time....pretty much if you look at the most proliferate trophy of the sport at the time...I even giver Bradshaw credit even though I hate him that he is probably the greatest of his era...How can you not say Marino is the greatest of his era with the numbers he put up compare to other QB's? Mannings numbers are better than Brady's, but he also has played longer...and the game has changed into a passing game unlike when Graham played.
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