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Old 01-26-2015, 04:22 PM   #2521
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You mean unless he thinks he's seen any and all tapes available. If he hadn't, and they burned him with this, it's a HUGE burn.
ok i hear Ya, makes since to you and me......But why wait until halftime to Expose this like this
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:22 PM   #2522
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According to Twitter (Take it with a grain of salt) the Pats flight is over New Mexico right now.

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Old 01-26-2015, 04:22 PM   #2523
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What if Jim Irsay Paid Ballboy huge money to tamper balls or called ball boy pretending he is BB to deflate balls? /Tin foil hat on...
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:23 PM   #2524
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Not to mention, this tape in question, would be the ONLY EVIDENCE THE NFL HAS.

What's the hold up on the report then?
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:23 PM   #2525
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If he was unaware of it, how is he complicit?
Have you been drinking?

Bill's press conference shifted the burden to the league. If he thought he knew everything they knew, but didn't, he easily could have come out on the offensive. They don't need to show that he did or knew anything, only that the balls were under Patriots control after the league inspected them. Boom.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:23 PM   #2526
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No, this just shifts the burden from the NFL (who had it after Bill's press conference) back on to the Patriots whether there is a confession or not. The league now has plausible deniability and should they not have enough evidence to penalize the Pats, they've washed their hands publicly of blame and the doubt remains with us. Go figure, the NFL executing a brilliant PR strategy.
"Well, we tried to get proof, but no one cracked. Everyone lied, but we can't prove it. Sorry, NFL fans, we tried to nail those krafty bastards. All we have is circumstantial stuff. We'll get 'em next time."
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Wouldn't it be funny if the door to the room was actually the exit to the field?

Also, a ball boy doing something to the balls after TB and the equipment have prepared them would be sabotage.
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FOX suggesting the balls were taken from the officials into another room prior to going to the field.

Even if true, they would have to have clear evidence that any wrongdoing happened. And the only way that could happen is a confession.
Yup, they were brought into an Elevator and lowered down to the core of the earth then returned to the field.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:25 PM   #2529
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Any tapes would be security tapes, wouldn't they?

BB isn't stupid. He doesn't go out like he did Saturday without knowing every possible thing.
Not necessarily. They could be NFL Films tapes. Those guys are EVERYWHERE. That's the only way I think this tape could be remotely relevant. If Bill hadn't seen it (and I can't imagine he's seen anything showing the balls leaving the NFL's possession after the definitive way he spoke on Saturday) then what else could it be? No way he doesn't view any Gillette tapes that could've shown this.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:26 PM   #2530
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Hard questions like addressing the investigation. Not just asking them what their favorite ice cream flavor is because their fan base is soft as hell and will throw internet fits because the big, bad media didn't respect that they were told not to talk about something.
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Hard questions like addressing the investigation. Not just asking them what their favorite ice cream flavor is because their fan base is soft as hell and will throw internet fits because the big, bad media didn't respect that they were told not to talk about something.

Address the investigation how? NE has said it has no more information. Maybe they should just repeat that in different languages.

And typically on Media Day, the questions asked largely do pertain to favorite ice cream and other stupid topics. This year, though, it's strictly comprised of hard-nosed journalism.
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Not to mention, this tape in question, would be the ONLY EVIDENCE THE NFL HAS.

What's the hold up on the report then?
I think that this is a way for the NFL to close the door on this investigation. This absolves the league from blame, so they should be good with the investigation either way. They interview the ball boy who says "nope, didn't deflate shit" and they can say they don't have enough while still letting public opinion rest on NE rather than NFL officiating incompetence. They can dodge the "did you really measure each ball" question this way, too.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:28 PM   #2533
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Not necessarily. They could be NFL Films tapes. Those guys are EVERYWHERE. That's the only way I think this tape could be remotely relevant. If Bill hadn't seen it (and I can't imagine he's seen anything showing the balls leaving the NFL's possession after the definitive way he spoke on Saturday) then what else could it be? No way he doesn't view any Gillette tapes that could've shown this.

im going out on a limb and guessing that there is security cameras every where except the rest rooms, kinda like a casino. I have to image Bill was able to following the ball boy from the officials room where they checked the balls all the way to the field!
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According to Mortensen, the team officials he talked to were all united in not having a favorable opinion of BB's Saturday presser. So...is this latest leak an attempt to say FU to BB for saying FU to them on Sat?
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:29 PM   #2535
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The league carried out a sting operation.

It is true, isn't it, that the officials hand the balls once on the field? So does this not implicate that the officials (a) didn't follow proper protocol...again, or (b) deliberately handed them off to a ball boy inside to set a trap?

I mean, this shit can work a million different ways. "Hey, kid, take these in there for a minute until we're ready"

I'm just not going there. This was a sting operation, and until someone proves to me that Irsay didn't set this up, there is not doubt in my mind that the Patriots so any and all video prior to Bill laying himself out on the sword.
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