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Old 02-14-2018, 07:16 PM   #1
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I wish I was more shocked

School shooting in FLA.

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Old 02-14-2018, 09:17 PM   #3
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To be fair CNN is calling it an AR 15 style gun. Is it confirmed an actual AR 15?


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To be fair CNN is calling it an AR 15 style gun. Is it confirmed an actual AR 15?


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Point taken. I'm not sure whether it was an AR15, or a variant. The report I read seemed so confident I thought they knew for sure, but you're right, you should never take the initial reports for granted.
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Sandy hook is a prime example of that, news reports said it was, then said it was a shotgun and rifle was in the car, then it was the rifle, etc. By the time it was all said and done, no one really knew what to believe.

As for todays shooting, I have many questions. How much warning signs was there? How did the idiot get the gun? If he bought it, was he legal to own one? Etc. Many of the previous shootings could've been prevented if the government did their job properly (read that close to 5,000 people were added to the NCIS no guns list that weren't previous on it from the military https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2018/0...scharges-nics/).

Also, I think the modern media has a place in the amount of mass shootings happening. Not 10-15 years ago the national media would break in, report information and get off the air. I noticed today that CBS news broke in not long after it happened and didn't get off the air until 6:30 with a special report. Idiots know that once their name is found out, it will be reported and said over and over and they will be (in)famous.

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Old 02-15-2018, 06:12 AM   #6
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Republican diaries are currently too full of thoughts and prayers to have a debate on how we can prevent these types of brutalities.
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I can't wait for the awesome debate on what brand of weapon was involved.

Is there any chance I can get a 2nd amendment supporter to admit a semi-automatic weapon is a more efficient killing machine than a knife. Barring that can we at least dispense with the "lets ban knives" comments the next time a terrorist in Europe attacks 3 people with a knife because they couldn't get an AR-15 to take out 20 more?

Actual "carnage in America" but it's OK cause "thoughts and prayers".

And NOTHING will happen because this is apparently the "price of liberty"
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horrible, just horrible.

another little bastard with no balls using a gun in a gun free zone because he feared someone actually fighting back. I hope they quarter this little bastard after 50 years of hard time.

mental health, guns, and douchebags - a perfect storm for tragedy.


I heard a coach stepped in front of his students and was killed, not much more read. I am sickened by this.
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Yeah and if he hadn't had access to guns, he would have just used a smart bomb or a car. Fucking republicans. Apparently there's never a right time to have a discussion about prevention.
It's just too raw and too filled with thoughts and prayers (which I'm sure will comfort the next slew of victims!)
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Yeah and if he hadn't had access to guns, he would have just used a smart bomb or a car. Fucking republicans. Apparently there's never a right time to have a discussion about prevention.
It's just too raw and too filled with thoughts and prayers (which I'm sure will comfort the next slew of victims!)
anderson, I'm not asking to be sarcastic, but I am genuinely curious as to what can now be done.

What can be done to prevent these kinds of tragedies at this point?

I'm serious and not at all sarcastic; I genuinely want to know what can be done. We know what the pro-2nd Amenders will say, and what the left will say, but beyond the usual party lines, what can truly be done?
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anderson, I'm not asking to be sarcastic, but I am genuinely curious as to what can now be done.

What can be done to prevent these kinds of tragedies at this point?

I'm serious and not at all sarcastic; I genuinely want to know what can be done. We know what the pro-2nd Amenders will say, and what the left will say, but beyond the usual party lines, what can truly be done?
We can start off by no longer ignoring research showing that mass shootings and high rates of gun ownership go hand in hand.

From there we can start restricting gun ownership.

It will never happen, of course, because a) there's a vested interest in selling more weapons and b) people like Baron thinks he's going to protect the world by owning firearms (despite more or less all data suggests that high rates of gun ownership lead to more instances of a) firearms deaths in general (duh) and b) mass shootings.
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Short of taking all guns away nothing can be done. You can't stop someone who is nuts and is determined. Just like you can't fight against people who are willing to strap an explosive vest to themselves and walk into a crowd and blow themselves and others up.

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"Nothing can be done" says only country in the world where this happens regularly.
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Yeah and if he hadn't had access to guns, he would have just used a smart bomb or a car. Fucking republicans. Apparently there's never a right time to have a discussion about prevention.
It's just too raw and too filled with thoughts and prayers (which I'm sure will comfort the next slew of victims!)
Well, referring to those with whom you disagree as fucking republicans is sure to be the catalyst for the reasonable discussion you note.
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"Nothing can be done" says only country in the world where this happens regularly.
Well think about it, reasonably. We know they are not going to take all the guns away, right? If you agree with that then the next part is nothing can be done.
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