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Old 08-23-2017, 11:01 AM   #91
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lol. I am not bent out of shape. In case you missed it I am not a Cowboys fan. But you certainly are the one with the long rant. You may be the most emotional poster on this board when someone disagrees with you.
Rant? Emotional? No, not me.

"You may be the most emotional poster on this board when someone disagrees with you."

Funny. You were the one who began this conversation by disagreeing with me. ;)

I said:
"Silly to think hanging out is bad optics. What's roger going to say about that? Nothing. It has no bearing."

To which you disagreed:
"Did you read the NFLs letter to Zeke? In there they discuss him pulling down the top of the girl at the St Patrick's Day parade. They had interviewed the girl who said she was fine with what Zeke did yet the NFL still included the episode in its report to show a pattern of behavior. Sure, there is nothing wrong with a player having a boat ride on his day off but for Zeke to do so with girls in bikini's all over the place is the definition of dumb even though his entourage said he did not drink or touch any girls. The appeal is next week. He really, really needs to be smarter and Jerrah really needs to get a clue about how to manage this guy.

Also, the NFL said ONE more infraction and they will banish him for life. I mean the guy is on thin, thin ice. Best to stay home right now and have a nice quiet house party."

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Old 08-23-2017, 11:05 AM   #92
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lol. I am not bent out of shape. In case you missed it I am not a Cowboys fan. But you certainly are the one with the long rant. You may be the most emotional poster on this board when someone disagrees with you.
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Old 08-23-2017, 11:07 AM   #93
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Rant? Emotional? No, not me.

"You may be the most emotional poster on this board when someone disagrees with you."

Funny. You were the one who began this conversation by disagreeing with me. ;)

I said:
"Silly to think hanging out is bad optics. What's roger going to say about that? Nothing. It has no bearing."

To which you disagreed:
"Did you read the NFLs letter to Zeke? In there they discuss him pulling down the top of the girl at the St Patrick's Day parade. They had interviewed the girl who said she was fine with what Zeke did yet the NFL still included the episode in its report to show a pattern of behavior. Sure, there is nothing wrong with a player having a boat ride on his day off but for Zeke to do so with girls in bikini's all over the place is the definition of dumb even though his entourage said he did not drink or touch any girls. The appeal is next week. He really, really needs to be smarter and Jerrah really needs to get a clue about how to manage this guy.

Also, the NFL said ONE more infraction and they will banish him for life. I mean the guy is on thin, thin ice. Best to stay home right now and have a nice quiet house party."

Case closed.
That is called a discussion Chevss. I made a post, you shared your opinion of it and then I backed it up mine. It could have ended there but then you said I was making a criminal case of it when I did no such thing and then somehow you managed to take the Floyd scenario with the Pats and try to compare with Gronk.

I mean dude, not everything is black and white. There are shades of grays. I see the other side too of people not thinking it is a big deal and I am fine with that position. Other posters if you check both agreed and disagreed with my take but as usual you have gone off the deep end. I am not sure why everything with you has to be WW3. Again, so much emotion and drama. Chill out.
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Old 08-23-2017, 01:50 PM   #94
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optics are fine...

"Multiple lake sources (yeah, we got those) tell us Zeke was just chillin' on a couple different boats and talking to friends. No one saw him drink any alcohol or get into any kind of negative situation. "

no they're not. He's in an environment that is conducive to that kind of behavior. The smart for thing for him to have done would have been to have not been there. It would have shown an awareness for his present situation. Regardless of his actions, it sends the wrong message.
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no they're not. He's in an environment that is conducive to that kind of behavior. The smart for thing for him to have done would have been to have not been there. It would have shown an awareness for his present situation. Regardless of his actions, it sends the wrong message.
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no they're not. He's in an environment that is conducive to that kind of behavior. The smart for thing for him to have done would have been to have not been there. It would have shown an awareness for his present situation. Regardless of his actions, it sends the wrong message.
I think being there, with multiple reports of him just chilling and not drinking shows he is aware of his present situation. He knows all eyes are on him and he a did not act the fool. It is exactly the optics he needed. I would also imagine he was coached by his attorneys to be visible in public being a perfect gentleman.
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I think being there, with multiple reports of him just chilling and not drinking shows he is aware of his present situation. He knows all eyes are on him and he a did not act the fool. It is exactly the optics he needed. I would also imagine he was coached by his attorneys to be visible in public being a perfect gentleman.
Aside from the fact that he's a 20-something year-old guy and it's summertime, and there's just about zero wrong with it, so long as he behaves, which he did by all accounts. The NFL doesn't own you. It's just a job.
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I think being there, with multiple reports of him just chilling and not drinking shows he is aware of his present situation. He knows all eyes are on him and he a did not act the fool. It is exactly the optics he needed. I would also imagine he was coached by his attorneys to be visible in public being a perfect gentleman.

yeah...in hindsight. If creating a positive image is what his intent was there are plenty of other things he could have done.
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yeah...in hindsight. If creating a positive image is what his intent was there are plenty of other things he could have done.
And anytime he's hanging anywhere with anyone not completely vetted he's risking getting drawn into conflict by someone looking for 15 minutes. He did nothing wromg, just, maybe, something stupid.


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And anytime he's hanging anywhere with anyone not completely vetted he's risking getting drawn into conflict by someone looking for 15 minutes. He did nothing wromg, just, maybe, something stupid.


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I agree totally. Comes down to being smart, practical, and mature. With this stunt he shows no signs of any of these.
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