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Old 01-05-2018, 07:15 AM   #46
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I'd appreciate the article copied here as to not give it clicks.
I clicked it so that none of the rest of you have to.

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Also, the idea that Tom is getting tired of Hoodie to me is absurd. One of the great things about Tom is by all accounts he wants to be coached. He's not like one of these people with a massive ego who wants a yes man to tell him how awesome he is, or to have a cheerleader coach like Garrett in Dallas or Tomlin in Pittsburgh.
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I get the vibe that while the nation will watch and more or less concede should the Pats win again this season the bigger picture people are grasping to is the empire may be falling.

The lack of the QB pipeline is now giving people hope.

However, there is a lot of talent available, and not enough spots. We WILL get Brady’s successor this draft.

In looking briefly at mocks yesterday they had us taking Sam Hubbard - Ohio St DE. Fine player. Excellent selection.



Mason Rudolph was still on the board....
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I get the vibe that while the nation will watch and more or less concede should the Pats win again this season the bigger picture people are grasping to is the empire may be falling.

The lack of the QB pipeline is now giving people hope.

However, there is a lot of talent available, and not enough spots. We WILL get Brady’s successor this draft.

In looking briefly at mocks yesterday they had us taking Sam Hubbard - Ohio St DE. Fine player. Excellent selection.



Mason Rudolph was still on the board....
I have never looked more forward to a draft than this one. I am super psyched to see who we get to be the next guy.
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I have never looked more forward to a draft than this one. I am super psyched to see who we get to be the next guy.
Mason Rudolph has been my #1. I just thought no chance.

So I set my sights on someone who may fall due to non prototypical positional size - Mayfield. But he’s performed too well imo.

I’d take either.

3 yrs from now under BB development?

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This graph is pure Jerry gold:

If you’re a Patriots insider with knowledge about what’s going on in their building, who are you going to go to with a sexy story? Adam Schefter probably. One of the trusted beat guys like Mike Reiss perhaps. The last guy you’re going to leak it to is Wickersham, who’s tried to win a Pulitzer in Fake Patriots Journalism and discredited everything you’ve ever accomplished in your career. He’s the guy on the Contacts list of everyone with a grudge against the team, and the first one they call with unsubstantiated rumors and complete made up nonsense. He’s a useful idiot. A Chris Mortensen 2.0.

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This graph is pure Jerry gold:

If you’re a Patriots insider with knowledge about what’s going on in their building, who are you going to go to with a sexy story? Adam Schefter probably. One of the trusted beat guys like Mike Reiss perhaps. The last guy you’re going to leak it to is Wickersham, who’s tried to win a Pulitzer in Fake Patriots Journalism and discredited everything you’ve ever accomplished in your career. He’s the guy on the Contacts list of everyone with a grudge against the team, and the first one they call with unsubstantiated rumors and complete made up nonsense. He’s a useful idiot. A Chris Mortensen 2.0.

Yes, I enjoyed that myself.
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Oh my goodness! What a train wreck the Patriots really are! Reminiscent of another team I know... Right Mazz?
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I put this in the other thread by mistake.

I read the article on the ESPN site.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page...power-struggle

There's really nothing there that we didn't already know although there's some interesting "fleshing out" of the stories already circulating about Guerrero and the Jimmy G trade. Actually, there's little about the JimmyG trade that I didn't already know in there. The $ amount of JG's contract extension is new as is the bump in salary when TB didn't play making JG the starter. What was surprising is there is no talk about who gets credit for the dynasty. I don't know where that came from.

I also wouldn't call it a "hit" piece. To me, it's a story about the interpersonal relationships of 3 powerful men, each with there own agendas & how they interact to keep the Patriots running as smoothly as possible despite a few conflicts that affect each in a very personal way. It's very well written however it's based entirely on unnamed sources.

This is Bedard's response to the article which is all you need to read, especially if you refuse to read the original piece on ESPN.

Here’s what I have learned about how things have gone down in Foxborough, and how tenuous the future is — if it is at all:
  • Tom Brady knows what is going on around him — now more than ever — as he has always had a fear he would be traded by Bill Belichick. The team’s decision to not trade Jimmy Garoppolo this past offseason, when his demand would have been highest, agitated Brady.
  • Meanwhile, Brady’s rumored contract extension after last year’s Super Bowl has not materialized, meaning Brady’s cap numbers is set to jump from $14 million (8.4 percent of the team’s cap) to $22 million (12.4 percent) the next two seasons. Without an extension, Brady’s contract is now easily traded or terminated.
  • The reason Brady was at such a discount through this season is because Brady and Kraft came to an agreement that he would take up less of the cap going forward to secure his place with the team. If Brady didn’t, Kraft couldn’t predict the future. From my MMQB piece in May 2015:
Right now, according to Spotrac, the Patriots are due to rank 16th, 15th and 20th the next three years, respectively, in the percentage of cap spent on quarterbacks thanks to Brady’s team-friendly contract. That is not an accident. After losing the 2012 AFC Championship Game to the Ravens, Kraft told Brady on a shared flight to California that if he wanted to get paid what he’s worth in a year or two, it probably wasn’t going to be tenable for the team. The Patriots did not want to pay 18 percent of their cap to a quarterback (as they were at the time), even one as great as Brady. Kraft told Brady that he was basically going to have to play at half price, which he will do from this year through the end of the contract in ’17 (it was extended in March 2016), to help the team give him the supporting cast to win championships and enhance his legacy. Brady thought about it, and agreed. The extension was announced in late February 2013. Also keep in mind that, also to help the team, Brady has never maximized the guaranteed money in his contract.
  • Sometime in September, right around the time Brady fitness guru Alex Guerrero and Brady were launching their TB12 Method book, Belichick sent word to Guerrero that he would have the same access to members of the team not named Brady as other personal fitness personnel, and that meant no more team flights and sideline access. Again, this did not sit well with Brady.
  • Put all of those things together — Garoppolo, the contract and Guerrero — and Brady was edgy. He wondered, after all he had done for the Patriots, why was his place on the team for 2018 not totally secure (at least in his mind)? Brady started to get in Kraft’s ear about it. Repeatedly. All the evidence was telling Brady that Belichick intended to trade him after the season and go with Garoppolo. Brady wanted to know where the security and loyalty was? He took less money and that enabled them to win two of the past three Super Bowls, and were favorites to make it three in four years? Why, considering all that, did Brady not have any assurances of being on the Patriots in ’18?
  • Brady never said or hinted about wanting Garoppolo traded. Didn’t happen. Brady just wanted some assurances of his future.
  • As the trade deadline neared, and Brady playing some of the best ball of his career and looking like an MVP candidate — he obviously wasn’t looking like a 40-year-old QB as Belichick feared — Kraft decided to demonstrate his loyalty to Brady and told Belichick to trade Garoppolo. If Belichick wasn’t going to do the contract extension, or tell Brady of his plan with Garoppolo, then Kraft was going to do what was in his power to make his favorite player more comfortable.
  • Belichick wasn’t happy about it — he believed Garoppolo was the QB to lead the Patriots long after he was retired — and he begrudgingly traded Garoppolo. He did not seek out offers or the highest value. He respects Garoppolo, wanted to give him a chance to succeed, so he left a message for Kyle Shanahan, whom Belichick thought a lot of, to call him the next day, Oct. 30 (date of the trade deadline). The deal was done for a second-round pick with little discussion.
  • The truth is, Belichick had no plans of trading Brady and sticking with Garoppolo. He just wanted to take all the time he could before making a decision, which was likely going to be to tag Garoppolo and then trade him, if Garoppolo didn’t agree to another attempt at a bridge deal. Belichick had no idea if Brady was going to suffer a major injury down the stretch or in the postseason. Brady could get into a car accident on Feb. 25, for all Belichick knew. Belichick doesn’t try to predict the future. He was going to keep Garoppolo as long as he could, and if Brady was still playing like he was 30, a decision would have to be made. Belichick was not going to trade Brady if he was playing like the MVP and champion of three of the past four Super Bowls. No way.
  • Now, if Brady struggled down the stretch, and then looked like Brett Favre in the 2007 NFC Championship Game … all bets were off. Again, as much time as possible to make a decision…
  • So Belichick, Brady and Kraft were all unhappy in some respect. Someone broached the subject of a meeting to get all three back on the same page before the first Miami game. It never happened, and it’s not known if the meeting has happened since.
  • As far as I have been told, that’s the extent of the situation. All three are irritated to some degree — Belichick about Garoppolo and Kraft’s meddling in football, Brady on Guerrero and his contract, and Kraft about the whole thing (although he’s more like Switzerland in all this) — but no one I’ve spoken with thinks this thing is driving towards a cliff. Belichick is not likely going anywhere, but his solo counsel approach leads to speculation in the building. He will get over it and start finding the next Garoppolo. Brady, who currently has no desire to do another deal to help the team, will keep working like he always does. Kraft will go back to minding his own business.
  • No one I’ve spoken with thinks this situation comes close to derailing this season. It’s not Armageddon, and everyone is still a professional at the end of the day.
In anyone wrong in this?
Not in my mind. I think everyone here was right, and at some point, after the season is over, they’ll realize that and it will business as usual.
Brady was correct that Garoppolo should have been dealt in the offseason, and the Patriots should have drafted another QB if they thought Jacoby Brissett was not up to snuff. Brady was also correct to want loyalty since his contract paved the way for the Patriots to stock the team to win two Super Bowls in three years, and maybe three in four. Brady’s contract gave the Patriots a huge advantage over other teams.
Belichick was correct to want to hang onto Garoppolo for as long as possible because you never know what might happen with a 40-year-old quarterback. Belichick was also right to be miffed at Kraft for doing what he said he would never do: insert himself into football decisions. (Belichick was wrong to not get as much as he could for Garoppolo in a trade).
Kraft was right to accelerate Belichick’s timeframe on Garoppolo with a display of loyalty for Brady. Brady deserved at least that for what he’s done for the franchise, especially in recent years. So what if Belichick had to go back out and find the next Garoppolo? That’s what he gets paid the highest salary in the league to do.
At the end of the day, or this season, the Patriots still have the best quarterback and coach in the league, and they’ll be favorites to win it all again this season and the next. The only thing in my mind that’s changed is the Patriots have to find a new successor for Brady. Garoppolo may indeed be a worthy heir to Brady. But then again, he might not. Garoppolo may be 7-0 to start his career, but he still has much to prove, especially with a full season of pounding and when teams have tape of him to pick apart.
Unless Belichick walks away because of this situation — and I highly doubt that will happen — nothing has really changed. The Patriots will likely roll on with business as usual.


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Come on people, it's ESPN for gods sake. lol
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these are the same people who came up with a formula that said that Brandon Weeden had a better game than Brady the last time the Pats played the Cowboys. These are the people that left Mort's bullshit up for HOW long after it was discredited.

fvck them sideways with a lead pipe.
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