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![]() Essentially, what you are saying is, "dogmatic secular societies have their own dogma". This is a useless tautology and misses the point. Let's try to clarify your position without using the phrase that keeps confusing you. Are secular and religious societies equally prone to the emergence of harmful dogma? Quote:
It's also important to note that such pedantry isn't non-believers abusing language, it's because theist apologetics often exploit gray areas in colloquial linguistics (whether intentional or not). Enhanced precision is a defense against said exploitation. |
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I don't even agree with them (or atheists for that matter) on what God means let alone much else. Edit: although, in defense of Atheists, you're just using the definition the religious gave you, and it was wrong from the start it's not entirely your fault for propagating it. |
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So I'm curious, Oswlek, under the definition I provided, what God are you "praying" to?
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I believe it's the conception is what's wrong, and where the discussion moving forward should be. Quote:
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Oswlek, might be too personal a question but just curious..do you ever have an inner conversation with yourself?
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It's absolutely a religion. It's not organized, but, it's a religion.
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It may be off 180/degrees, but, it's a religion. Science is also a religion. |
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Researchers and historians have discovered over the years the big lie has been religion. The bible was written by MEN, not a god. These people were village elders, soothsayers, intellectuals, fortune seekers, wanna be intellectuals, etc. You might say they were the original "flat earthers", they had absolutely no sense of the earth's place in the cosmos. They thought the sun orbited the earth…..their myopia simply was intense - "it's gotta be all about us” was their mindset, unaware of the fact the little chunk of granite we call home is nothing more than a tiny spec in a vast galaxy and simply a micro spec of dust in a much vaster universe. Talk about sheer levels of ignorance and arrogance. These fanciful yarns of theirs were passed from generation to generation……and only after decades/centuries of these fireside chats was an effort made to commit something to paper….and I can only imagine the level of embellishment that took place after such a sheer amount of time. Think the “telephone game” in school and what that little exercise did to the original message. Therefore, in my mind it’s hard to place much credence in the bible and associated scriptures - they are all a nice collection of fanciful yarns and stories from eons ago. |
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