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Old 04-07-2017, 05:08 AM   #31
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Assad using chemical weapons was the conclusion about as fast as the Benghazi video was. Someone should go look (not me) for signs of chemical weapons facilities at the alleged air field and at the bomb sight.
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I think this was a good move for Trump with regards to support from the west.

This bombing attack will however put Trumps relationship with Russia on a test. I think sooner or later dealing with Putin isn't as easy as he assumed.
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How about Russia as a possible culprit? That would make the most sense to me...

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That's because that's the only answer you have for anything for the last 6 months.

If I asked you "Why would Russia make sense?", you would have no idea.
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Old 04-07-2017, 06:41 AM   #34
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Baron's "" list about the last few days in Syria;

1. Tillerson and Trump declared that ousting Assad was no longer requisite for a solution to the Syria problem, after Assad has been kicking the Hell out of the rebels for the last 4 months and has clearly taken the advantage in the civil war. Suddenly, 5 days after the US announces he can stay, and the night before negotiations are to begin to stabilize Syria and oust ISIS, Assad suddenly decides it is in his strategic and/ortactical interest to launch a chemical attack on civilians.

2. Within minutes, it is declared that Assad is responsible. Source? Turkey. Turkey!?!? Our 17 intelligence services just take information given by Turkey as fact on the spot, apparently.

3. The Lamestream Media, who's policy is always "Never show the bodies" on any story...terrorist attacks, collapsed cranes and buildings, fires, floods...they never, ever show the bodies on TV, and if they do, they are pixelated out, or they are at a great distance or otherwise obscured, such as the coverage of the London and Nice attacks, or Sandy Hook.
Suddenly, every network is showing dead and dying babies up close and personal on every network, with total abandon and no effort or thought whatsoever to obscuring them. Every network.

4. Prior to launching his cruise missiles, Trump alerts the Russians that he is going to attack the base. Presumably, the Russians alert the Syrians.
50 cruise missiles later....I see pictures of broken concrete bunkers, but no planes, and the radio reports that the runway remains intact.
A military airbase, and there are only 6 casualties? 50 cruise missiles, and 6 casualties while the runway remains functional and intact?
Precisely what was supposed to be targeted or accomplished with this attack? We blew up six people, and some cinder blocks with 50 Tomahawks. Nowadays, we need 8 Tomahawk missiles for every kill we get, and we missed the runway 50 times? If you're not going to destroy the runway, what are you even bombing the airbase for? You already gave them the heads up so they can get their planes out of there.

It is events and stories like this that separate thinkers from swallowers.
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NEW: Pentagon releases graphic showing route of plane that took off from Syria's Shayrat Air Base on its way to location of chemical attack that killed at least 86 civilians. http://abcn.ws/2ofrplw


This is from ABC News so take it with a pound of salt......
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Here is the bipartisanship. Schumer and Pelosi agree with the bombing. Is this really the only time we can get D and R to agree? Let's go kill some people.
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This is reportedly a Tweet, dated April 3rd, from a rebel journalist, "On April 3rd, 2017, an anti-Assad journalist tweeted that the next day he would be launching a media campaign to cover airstrikes on the Hama countryside, including the use of chemical weapons."

https://archive.fo/8wVJ1

I cannot personally verify that, I am sending it to someone to translate it for me...not sure when I will get it back...hopefully no later than Monday.

And here is a doctor thanking folks for donating gas masks dated April 1st..

https://archive.fo/lnHXE

I happen to think, with just a cursory review, that this doctor is legit and not part of any setup or false flag, but he does work for Jabhat Fatah al-Sham.
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Jesus Christ....we killed more civilians than we did soldiers or planes!

4 more dead children courtesy of Tomahawk missiles that missed by 2 miles.

I wonder if they will show THEM on the Lamestream media....odds? Anyone?
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That's because that's the only answer you have for anything for the last 6 months.

If I asked you "Why would Russia make sense?", you would have no idea.
Question 1- Aside from Assad, who is most invested in maintaining Assad's regime?
Question 2- who's planes are conducting attacks in Syria?
Question 3- who's forces required notification of last night's missile attack?
Question 4- who's nuts have been sucked by our POTUS for months on end?
Question 5- who just got a cue from our new dumbshit Sec State that the Syrian conflict was for Syrians and maybe Assad should stay as a green light for escalating the attacks? (Bonus- the same 'who' that has dealt privately with our new dumbshit Sec State for years and billions of $ in petrochemical transactions)
Question 6- who might assume, based on continued and unending obsequious statements ignoring their multitudinous human rights violations from our POTUS, might just feel that these human rights violations in the service of number 1 above might fly?

Hint: one answer works for all the above.
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Let me get this straight....you think that launching chemical attacks on civilians is the best way to keep Assad in power?

Did you actually just make that assertion?

EDIT: Question 2, by the way....could be Russia, or Syria, or Israel, or the US, or Turkey. That's not terribly convincing, and it's not even convincing that the chemicals were released by flight rather than released from a destroyed storage building.
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Let me get this straight....you think that launching chemical attacks on civilians is the best way to keep Assad in power?

Did you actually just make that assertion?
Yes, I did. Not for me, for them.

Have you noticed how long the conflict has gone on? And what a torturing chemical-weapon using maniac Assad has been all along? And are you familiar with Russia's stellar record in conflict?

I think it was a test to see what they could get away with.

Supplemented by Trump's (now abandoned) non-interventionist stance and Putin worship, and Tillerson's recent 'we don't want to get involved' statement, I think they thought they'd check on the 'red line' status of the US and see if it was still not a real one.

I think they failed to factor in Trump's shitty poll numbers and political fails into the calculus, though.
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By declaring you were gonna stay away from Assad he might have felt free to do what he wanted, and thereby upping his game. Not saying that happened, but it is possible.

It was however to much, so Trump had to avt, even though he said he wouldnt days earlier.

Informing the russians befor the air strike seems naive. Unless Trump wanted them to evacuate for some readon.
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6 Syrian soldiers dead, have not heard of any civilians being killed. Also, Russia was told about the strike before it happened.


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