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Old 04-06-2017, 10:58 AM   #1
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Syrian civilians

Are they "innocent people including women, small children, and even beautiful little babies" (that we will now defend militarily)

or

are they a "Trojan Horse" "who are definitely, in many cases, ISIS-aligned" (who must be shunned, barred and left in Syria to be gassed)?



Just hoping for some clarification before Trump launches a hot war.
Maybe I'll wait for Saturday's tweet- that should clear things up!
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Old 04-06-2017, 11:01 AM   #2
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To portray them entirely as either is a mistake.
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They're the cost of doing what is necessary to reverse the policy of letting Assad stay in power to defeat ISIS.

Trump got fed a big lie, and he took a great big bite and is apparently a swallower...as are most Americans.
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Old 04-06-2017, 11:24 AM   #4
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Are they "innocent people including women, small children, and even beautiful little babies" (that we will now defend militarily)

or

are they a "Trojan Horse" "who are definitely, in many cases, ISIS-aligned" (who must be shunned, barred and left in Syria to be gassed)?



Just hoping for some clarification before Trump launches a hot war.
Maybe I'll wait for Saturday's tweet- that should clear things up!
I don't think that it's an either or question.

One could easily answer yes, or no, to both questions.
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Old 04-06-2017, 11:29 AM   #5
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Are they "innocent people including women, small children, and even beautiful little babies" (that we will now defend militarily)

or

are they a "Trojan Horse" "who are definitely, in many cases, ISIS-aligned" (who must be shunned, barred and left in Syria to be gassed)?



Just hoping for some clarification before Trump launches a hot war.
Maybe I'll wait for Saturday's tweet- that should clear things up!
It has been a growing mess ever since Obama revealed that he didn't speak the truth on his red line (or many other "lines").

No worries, obama skedaddled and left his puke for President Trump to fix, if possible.
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What's hilarious about all that is the only people replying to it are liberals. I guess when you live off the gov and don't have a job you have lots of time to make yourself look like an idiot.
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By the way, it is probably a mix of both....but mostly innocents.

Jabhat al Nusrah, later Jabhat al Sham, captured the Tekkim chemical plant in Syria years ago, and everywhere chemical attacks have occurred have been in places they dominate.

They also happen to be the representative arm of Saudi Arabia and Qatar in Syria, and the benefactors of American arms and funding by way of the same.

They are also the group that was in receipt of the weapons that were being funneled into Syria out of Libya because they controlled the ports.

So...I cannot say who conducted the chemical attacks, but I can say with certainty who benefits and who loses. The timing of the attack is a HUGE loss for Assad, who had just negotiated the "Assad can stay" policy from the White House....not 48 hours prior to the attack, in order to focus on ISIS.

Jabhat al Sham are not ISIS, they are al Qaeda...but if and when ISIS folds, they are next on Assad's hit list. They were about to lose everything, but one simple chemical attack blamed on Assad changes everything, just like Obama's "red line"....funny how these attacks have worked out that way.

EDIT: I wonder if this was what John McCain's recent visit was for?
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Old 04-06-2017, 12:41 PM   #9
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Baron, if you want to accuse the US of gassing Syrian civilians please have some evidence other than "this looks suspicious."

It's very hard to take seriously otherwise
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I believe I made it cleawr that I think Jabhat al Sham did it.
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A couple of resource links to understand the dynamics of what is going on, and inparticular around Idlib...

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/orig...hat-fateh.html

https://web.stanford.edu/group/mappi...iew/493#note11

You see, the individual militas are often classified as terrorist groups, but as a federation, they are supported as moderates.

Here is the video I am referring to....from December 2012...



These are the guys in control of Idlib currently.

EDIT: Description of the video here...

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2012/12...ion-video.html
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Ahh my bad. You were about to get another skeptical hippo.

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Ahh my bad. You were about to get another skeptical hippo.

I got too f*cking many of those as it is. I don't even know what to feed them.
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You better figure it out because the only thing worse than a skeptical hippo is a hangry skeptical hippo

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Interesting, I hadn't seen this. Great minds think alike!



Just days after the US Administration changed course on Syrian President Assad, saying he could stay, an alleged chemical weapon attack that killed dozens of civilians has been blamed on the Syrian government. Did Assad sign his own death warrant with such an attack...or does some other entity benefit?
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