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Old 04-24-2016, 04:56 PM   #61
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Regarding the bathroom question.

As I understand it, the left of center position is that the transgendered should be allowed to use the bathroom they associate with because if they are "forced" to use the other one, it would cause them some level of angst.

Simple question.

If the left of center position is adopted, what if single gendered individuals suffer some sort of "angst" over that?

I can certainly see some women being uncomfortable if an apparent man is in their restroom.

Is that a valid concern or is it simply a case that since the single gendered are not the "oppressed", and the transgendered are, the latter trumps the former?
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Old 04-24-2016, 05:21 PM   #62
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Regarding the bathroom question.

As I understand it, the left of center position is that the transgendered should be allowed to use the bathroom they associate with because if they are "forced" to use the other one, it would cause them some level of angst.

Simple question.

If the left of center position is adopted, what if single gendered individuals suffer some sort of "angst" over that?

I can certainly see some women being uncomfortable if an apparent man is in their restroom.

Is that a valid concern or is it simply a case that since the single gendered are not the "oppressed", and the transgendered are, the latter trumps the former?
What makes me uncomfortable is when the Fighting Irish are in the next stall...
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What makes me uncomfortable is when the Fighting Irish are in the next stall...
That happens to everyone. It's hard to have a nice relaxing BM, with the sounds of violent projectile vomiting occurring in the next stall.
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Here's my concern: isn't transgenderism a psychological disorder?

If so , why do we accommodate this one disorder but not others?
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Here's my concern: isn't transgenderism a psychological disorder?

If so , why do we accommodate this one disorder but not others?
That's a loaded question quite frankly.

We do accommodate all disorders under disability act.

So many disorders are classified as "mental disorders", for insurance purposes that may or may not be mental disorders considered by the general population.

In order for those experiencing gender dysphoria to receive medical treatment they have to be seen by a mental health professional. So yes they are classified as having a mental illness but so do children who wet their bed beyond a certain age. Most are found to have a Physical issue.

I'm not going to lie I'm exhausted and I will if I can get into this more tomorrow, time permitting. It's very complicated to say the least .

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O.k. - the humor thread is fvcked...
We'll figure it out lol.

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I don't know about that. Trannies are still funny.

















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Here's my concern: isn't transgenderism a psychological disorder?

If so , why do we accommodate this one disorder but not others?
Homosexuality used to be termed as a psychological disorder until one of the DSM editions reversed that. I wouldn't be surprised if transgenderism gets revised at some point (if it is classified as a disorder now).

It's all a matter of societal perspective. It wasn't that long ago that our culture portrayed it as solely freakish (Michael Caine in Dressed to Kill). In some countries, it will still get you thrown off a building or burned alive. I prefer the choose your own bathroom, it's not hurting anybody perspective.

And, Dee - if you feel like typo-ing tranny for tyranny again, this would be the thread for it.
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Homosexuality used to be termed as a psychological disorder until one of the DSM editions reversed that. I wouldn't be surprised if transgenderism gets revised at some point (if it is classified as a disorder now).

It's all a matter of societal perspective. It wasn't that long ago that our culture portrayed it as solely freakish (Michael Caine in Dressed to Kill). In some countries, it will still get you thrown off a building or burned alive. I prefer the choose your own bathroom, it's not hurting anybody perspective.
Under the last edition which was 5 or so years ago they still were just classified under a different sexual issue. They just hide it better with a different diagnosis.

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Under the last edition which was 5 or so years ago they still were just classified under a different sexual issue. They just hide it better with a different diagnosis.

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Actually it was 3 years ago not five DSM-5 was published in 2013.

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Actually it was 3 years ago not five DSM-5 was published in 2013.

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Sorry to post this here, but it's the best place at the moment:
http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/23/...der-bathrooms/
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