welcome to your new home tonyto36

[patswin]

Tony some advice. It's wise to lurk a bit and get to know people. It's like your virtual neighborhood. In a real neighborhood you wouldn't move in and get all arguementative with the neighbors on day 1 or 2. You might politely and cautiously get to know them.
That works here too. Also. It's the off season. The draft is weeks away. There's lot's of fun threads with opportunities to get to know people a little bit, earn some respect and maybe then you think twice before getting in someones grille after 100 posts.
We have a girlie pic thread, we talk about things such as whether it 's best to wipe your ass front to rear, or rear to front. Or counsel members whose dates have privates that smell like cheeseburgers. Or discuss family losses, marital issues, legal advice, you name it. That said there's more football knowledge here than any forum anywhere. Anywhere, I repeat. We have coaches, players, and guys and girls who know more than you, or me, about the X's and O's. They've been around, they know their shit, and it's best to not walk in the door, throw it down and tell 'em all how wrong they are. Just friendly advice. It's a great place, but not so great for impolite people. This isn't the SI forum or one of those wild west trash talking unmoderated comment sections on every sports site on the net. If you figure that out and act accordingly I think you'll do fine. If not you'll be Midgar II.

One more thing. Don't fvck with Lisa. Oops.... too late. Sorry dude.

[mikiemo83]

Please, this was not a tony and PFL exclusive issue. No idea why she is being singled out as several poster were all equally frustrated.

[Hawg73]

Originally Posted by tonyto36

Did I play nice? No. We're all grownups. When someone is being a belligerent tool bag and following me around trolling (and even admitted so), I'm not going to sugar coat things for their ego. I tried to let the conversation die several times, but people repeatedly made it a personal attack and kept bringing it up, so I responded to defend myself.

I made rational comments and asked very rational and polite questions for explanations seeing as I was clearly missing something (such as what techniques are used on special teams that elite defensive players such as McCourty and Collins can't do that Brandon Bolden can, and how tackling on STs is different than any open field tackle on defense).

These were all instantaneously met with " WE ALREADY EXPLAINED THIS SEVERAL TIMES YOURE JUST NOT LISTENING".

When I call people out for bailing on a debate and being jerks because they are just trying to cover for themselves I got sent here. Given how I saw others behave and they didn't receive any warnings or suspensions that I know of, nothing I've said comes even remotely close to inappropriate. I had a valid point and didn't relent.

Gronk was removed from STs to protect his health.
Bolden isn't a better tackler than Jamie Collins.

While some will desperately cling to how those two things aren't "facts that I've proven", I think anyone with any sort of common sense and without desperation to not be wrong can see that I'm right on both counts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_eSwq1ewsU


I WILL NOT BE COWED

Here, you're going to need this:

[dchester]

Originally Posted by PumpDee

Wow. They'll let ANYBODY in this place.

OK, who forgot to lock the door.

[TommyD420]

Originally Posted by mikiemo83

Please, this was not a tony and PFL exclusive issue. No idea why she is being singled out as several poster were all equally frustrated.

Oh yes you do.

[PatsFanLisa]

Originally Posted by TommyD420

Oh yes you do.

Why? Cuz I exposed him for the fraud he was before anyone else? Hell, I don't even know why.

[mikiemo83]

Originally Posted by TommyD420

Oh yes you do.

actually i may suspect why but i thought we stopped pulling ponytails and calling each other names after 4th grade

Originally Posted by PatsFanLisa

Why? Cuz I exposed him for the fraud he was before anyone else? Hell, I don't even know why.

No i think he likes you!!

[PatsFanLisa]

Originally Posted by mikiemo83

actually i may suspect why but i thought we stopped pulling ponytails and calling each other names after 4th grade

No i think he likes you!!

Bwahahahaha.

[mikiemo83]

Originally Posted by PatsFanLisa

Bwahahahaha.

I feel like Chuck Woolery, be back in 2 & 2

[tonyto36]

Originally Posted by PatsFanLisa

Why? Cuz I exposed him for the fraud he was before anyone else? Hell, I don't even know why.

You did nothing but ignore all my very valid points and reasons and tried to bait me into a flame war. You offer very little as far as football insight and your entire schtick is deflections and personal attacks.

You're being singled out because while others disagreed with me, and even if I think they're wrong that's fine. Because they offered actual argument beyond petty personal attacks. And beyond that, they didn't hide behind other posters to stick their neck out (for me to chop down) like you did.

You can keep crying that you exposed me or that you beat me or whatever, but I know that you know you realized you were wrong and instead of admitting it or just letting it die, made it a huge personal vendetta that you'd go out of your way to attack me for making you look bad.

And this is why this forum is dead, after it looks like was once a very healthy thriving place. You and a couple other posters with several tens of thousands of posts all agree with each other regardless of reality and troll/ban/send to AA anyone who disagrees with you.

[ParanoidPatriot]

Originally Posted by tonyto36

You did nothing but ignore all my very valid points and reasons and tried to bait me into a flame war. You offer very little as far as football insight and your entire schtick is deflections and personal attacks.

You're being singled out because while others disagreed with me, and even if I think they're wrong that's fine. Because they offered actual argument beyond petty personal attacks. And beyond that, they didn't hide behind other posters to stick their neck out (for me to chop down) like you did.

You can keep crying that you exposed me or that you beat me or whatever, but I know that you know you realized you were wrong and instead of admitting it or just letting it die, made it a huge personal vendetta that you'd go out of your way to attack me for making you look bad.

And this is why this forum is dead, after it looks like was once a very healthy thriving place. You and a couple other posters with several tens of thousands of posts all agree with each other regardless of reality and troll/ban/send to AA anyone who disagrees with you.

[PatsFanLisa]

Originally Posted by tonyto36

You did nothing but ignore all my very valid points and reasons and tried to bait me into a flame war. You offer very little as far as football insight and your entire schtick is deflections and personal attacks.

I only attack after I see an attention-whoring moron that tries to deflect everything everyone has said and tell them that they're wrong.

You're being singled out because while others disagreed with me, and even if I think they're wrong that's fine. Because they offered actual argument beyond petty personal attacks. And beyond that, they didn't hide behind other posters to stick their neck out (for me to chop down) like you did.

I'm being singled out because your wife won't blow you anymore cuz you're a ****ing dickwad, so you have to take out your aggressions somewhere. Plus, I'm smarter than you.

You can keep crying that you exposed me or that you beat me or whatever, but I know that you know you realized you were wrong and instead of admitting it or just letting it die, made it a huge personal vendetta that you'd go out of your way to attack me for making you look bad.

I don't cry. The only one that's whined around here is you "SHOW ME FACTS!!! RESPOND TO MY RIDICULOUS POSTS!!! WAAAA WAAAA WAAAA!" Talk about not letting something die. You went on and on and on and on and on and on........about the same fvcking thing.

Also, I'm never wrong. I read you like a 1,000-pg book in five minutes. You just proved to everyone else how right I was.

And this is why this forum is dead, after it looks like was once a very healthy thriving place. You and a couple other posters with several tens of thousands of posts all agree with each other regardless of reality and troll/ban/send to AA anyone who disagrees with you.

So, a$$hole, where did you come from to find us? And by the way, I've been here for 8 yrs, have 17 thousand some-odd posts, averaging about 6 posts per day as a mean. Most of us get along really well with everyone, except people that think they're smarter than everyone else, won't admit if there are other trains of thought because they're always right, and come in like a fvcking steamroller.

But, by all means, carry on. Someone is bound to visit you down here, unless you decide to apologize or write something with even one iota of sincerity to the mods. It won't be me, though.

Oh, and just because you're in the AA, this is fitting for you.

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[tonyto36]

You're only strengthening my point. You're just digging yourself deeper.

You were wrong, it's okay. You don't have to deflect and attack to compensate. No one is going to put you on trial for making a mistake.

[patswin]

Originally Posted by tonyto36

You're only strengthening my point. You're just digging yourself deeper.

You were wrong, it's okay. You don't have to deflect and attack to compensate. No one is going to put you on trial for making a mistake.

No one is going to let you out of here the way things are shaping up. Gee and I tried to give you good advice.

[tonyto36]

Originally Posted by patswin

No one is going to let you out of here the way things are shaping up. Gee and I tried to give you good advice.

Based on what?

Lisa freaked out and made it seem like a big deal. If you actually look at what I said, not only has it been proven as true by Lisa's reaction, it's not a big deal. There were no personal attacks. THere was no vulgarity. It was me stating how things happened (me making a point and Lisa not knowing how to counter it so immediately goes into rage troll mode) and it happened again.

I don't really see how the issue lies with me if it's Lisa (or Tommy) completely losing their minds in blind rage for no reason.

I'll tone it down for those who engage in real intellectual debate, but when people do nothing but try start flame wars, or try to argue completely nonsensical points (such as Bolden is a better open field tackler than McCourty), then I'm likely going to call people on it.