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Old 04-15-2014, 11:58 AM   #46
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Nothing in the document about Bundy.
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:00 PM   #49
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Jesus Harry Reid Christ.
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Did anyone get an approximate number of the militia that descended upon this scene? I do know some were present, but would like to know if it was anywhere near the numbers who stated online that they were going.

This is my primary concern.....these militia armed to the teeth going into something like this and creating a major conflict. I don't give a fvck about the tortoise or the cattle. It's the notion that we are one militia away from civil ARMED unrest in this country. And it will be the tip of the iceburg.
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U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIORBUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT
Northeast Clark County Cattle Trespass
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Cattle Trespass Impacts

Cliven Bundy has no legal authority to graze cattle on federal lands in the Gold Butte area, including Lake Mead National Recreation Area. The U.S. District Court of Nevada has permanently enjoined Cliven Bundy's trespass grazing, ordered him to remove his trespass cattle from public lands inside and outside the former Bunkerville Allotment (including from the Lake Mead NRA) before December 2013, and stated the U.S. is entitled to seize and impound any cattle that have not been removed by the judicially imposed off-date and that remain in trespass. A large number of the trespass cattle on the federal lands are feral cattle that can pose a threat to members of the public recreating or traveling over the federal lands. The trespass cattle have also caused damage to private property, as well as to the federal lands and natural resources.
Examples of Recent Incidents of Private Property Damage Caused by Bundy's Trespass Cattle

  • One feral cow was hit by an automobile within Lake Mead National Recreation Area. Cattle are frequently seen on public roads, including State Route 170 and pose a danger to vehicles and to members of the public traveling on public roads.
  • Overton Wildlife Refuge (State of Nevada) employee attacked by a Bundy bull.
  • Crop destroyed by Bundy cattle on private land.
  • Mesquite Heritage Community Garden damaged by trespass cattle.
  • Mesquite golf course damaged by trespass cattle.
Examples of Restoration Funding and Viability Impacted
  • A $400,000 matching grant to restore Southwest Willow Flycatcher habitat along the Virgin River from the Walton Family Foundation was withdrawn until the trespass cattle have been removed.
  • A $160,000 Southern Nevada Public Land Management Act project to restore Southwestern Willow Flycatcher has been delayed until trespass cattle are removed.
  • Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle.
  • The Nevada State Department of Wildlife has built extensive fences to protect state and federal lands protected as the Overton Wildlife Refuge from the trespass cattle.
Examples of Public Concerns
  • Residents of the communities of Bunkerville and Mesquite have complained about the impact of cattle on city facilities.
  • Within the last month, letters requesting action have also been received from several individuals, Friends of Nevada Wilderness, Friends of Gold Butte and Friends of Joshua Tree Forest.
  • The Center for Biological Diversity has demanded action to resolve trespass in designated critical desert tortoise habitat in several letters.
  • Western Watersheds has requested a verbal status update and later filed a Freedom of Information Act request.
Examples of Natural and Cultural Resource Damage
  • Cattle have crushed artifacts at the "Red Racer" and St. Thomas cultural sites.
  • Damage to springs, including fecal contamination, trampling soils and vegetation and impacts to wildlife. Wildlife will avoid springs with large numbers of cattle.
  • Damage to springs with sensitive amphibians, including the rare relict leopard frog.
  • Multiple instances of vegetation damage to rare plants, including on monitoring plots after extensive wildfires within critical habitat for Desert Tortoise.
  • Unauthorized reservoir constructed with bulldozer twice.


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Old 04-15-2014, 12:26 PM   #52
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WTF does any of that have to do with Harry Reid?

It simply outlines all the damage Cliven Bundy has done.

Lock his criminal ass up.
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http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-...not-being-told

Steve-O was right about some of the disinfo in some of the links. There was. But, there is truth in it overall.

Why did the BLM erase their page so fast?

Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle"

They specifically referred to the solar project as a justification to seize Cliven Bundy's cattle.
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"Mitigation" = reducing environmental impact by restoring habitats and wildlife, also restoring grasslands damaged by CLIVEN BUNDY'S CATTLE.

And all that shit says is that environmental groups are saying that the impact of the solar plant would be otherwise mitigated by this location, if he would keep his damned cattle off the land.

Lock his criminal ass up.
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Did anyone get an approximate number of the militia that descended upon this scene? I do know some were present, but would like to know if it was anywhere near the numbers who stated online that they were going.

This is my primary concern.....these militia armed to the teeth going into something like this and creating a major conflict. I don't give a fvck about the tortoise or the cattle. It's the notion that we are one militia away from civil ARMED unrest in this country. And it will be the tip of the iceburg.
I know there is at least one man who was caught on photos aiming his gun at BLM agents from a bridge. He also needs to be locked up.

These idiots think they have the right to go pointing their guns at law enforcement, and expect nothing bad to happen.

Something bad is going to happen. And it's not "Big Brother" or "tyranny" when it does.

It's simply Darwinism.

edit: this guy. Lock his ass up.
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Looks like these tough guys are going to be hiding behind women, next.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...nch-standoff/#

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I know there is at least one man who was caught on photos aiming his gun at BLM agents from a bridge. He also needs to be locked up.

These idiots think they have the right to go pointing their guns at law enforcement, and expect nothing bad to happen.

Something bad is going to happen. And it's not "Big Brother" or "tyranny" when it does.

It's simply Darwinism.

edit: this guy. Lock his ass up.

My thoughts exactly. WTF happened that citizens believe they can do this shit right here in the middle of a scenario that involves the federal government? On what grounds are they out in public with weapons? These are the assholes in Texas (and everywhere else) that own weapons and have no business owning them. This isn't their house. They are not police officers. Just who the hell do they think they are that they can get into this? Of course the government released the animals and tried to diffuse the situation. It was to ward off a blood bath.

And how awesome to use the women as cover. These guys are real men.
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http://scgnews.com/brazen-harry-reid...rruption-probe

The irony here is certainly not lost on the FBI, which was in the process of investigating Harry Reid for corruption, only to have that probe blocked by the Department of "Justice". The corruption probe, doesn't seem to be directly related to Senator Reid's dealings in Clark county, but the accusations were regarding the same type of behavior: profiting from his position through political favors.

This vow to escalate the showdown in Clark county once again also comes as evidence exposing the connections between Harry Reid, ENN, and the Bureau of Land Management have gone viral.

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A disturbing thought keeps itching in the back of my mind though, do they want actually want this to spin out of control?
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My thoughts exactly. WTF happened that citizens believe they can do this shit right here in the middle of a scenario that involves the federal government? On what grounds are they out in public with weapons? These are the assholes in Texas (and everywhere else) that own weapons and have no business owning them. This isn't their house. They are not police officers. Just who the hell do they think they are that they can get into this? Of course the government released the animals and tried to diffuse the situation. It was to ward off a blood bath.

And how awesome to use the women as cover. These guys are real men.
Are you suggesting that people should not be allowed to simply have weapons in public?

I'm not asking about threatening anyone, be it civilian, law enforcement, government official or an endangered tortoise, but simply possessing a weapon.

What is your basis for saying there are people who have "no business" owning weapons?

Who decides who has such "business"?
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Looks like these tough guys are going to be hiding behind women, next.

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That's a far more effective technique if you don't announce that you're going to do it first.
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