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Old 04-06-2012, 03:54 PM   #61
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Why do you suppose that is?

Because people are programmed to accept certain ideas, and anything outside of that box is kooky.

This is why Europe is going to hell in a handbasket, and people here think we are in recovery.

They are programmed for ignorance.

They are programmed for short term thinking and selfishness. Thats why bread and circus worked so well for so long in the Roman empire.

This is exactly what the people want.......and you're going to have to rip it out of their hands.
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:55 PM   #62
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You can dilute it all you want.

But eventually it will grow. And grow some more. And grow some more.

Until eventually it's too large to realistically do something about it.

Bottom line is that people who gravitate towards positions of power, are going to do everything they can to increase their power. And since they have the power, they can do whatever the **** they want.

Might makes right. Perhaps not ethically right, but this isn't about ethics it's about reality. They have the guns, so what they say goes. You think we can fight back? Please. We spend more on the military than the rest of the world combined. Modern professional armies don't stand a chance, what are we going to do? Throw rocks at tanks?

That's precisely the reason when I see people calling for revolution I have to believe they just haven't thought it through.
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:57 PM   #63
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I like that idea. So what we need is to come up with a governing document, we'll call it "The Constitution", and in it we'll limit the power that the central government is allowed to have; those powers will be limited in scope, specific, and enumerated, and we'll reserve everything else for the states and the people.

Yeah, hows that working out for us?

As much as I love the Constitution, it has no power unless we choose to abide by it. And if we don't, well again, it's kind of like the UN. We can fuss and bitch all we want, but if the rest of teh Government says **** off, well, we'd better get busy ****ing off.
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The problem in this country is that the "99%" are the problem....not the 1%.

The sad thing is that they honestly think it's the other way around and progressives/socialists keep encouraging that lie.
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Yeah, hows that working out for us?

As much as I love the Constitution, it has no power unless we choose to abide by it. And if we don't, well again, it's kind of like the UN. We can fuss and bitch all we want, but if the rest of teh Government says **** off, well, we'd better get busy ****ing off.

Its problematic when those whose powers are being limited are in charge of seeing that these limitations are enforced.

I keep looking for the authorities I can call to report our goverment and demand action be taken to rectify the problem, and then I realize it's the same people.
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Old 04-06-2012, 04:09 PM   #66
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Its problematic when those whose powers are being limited are in charge of seeing that these limitations are enforced.

I keep looking for the authorities I can call to report our goverment and demand action be taken to rectify the problem, and then I realize it's the same people.
That's precisely the problem.

The founders had a great idea of pitting different branches of the government against each other.

Unfortunately, they learned that one hand washes the other and here we are.

The 2nd amendment was also supposed to be a safegaurd against tyranny, but I don't care how many guns I have, there is nothing I can do against an Abrahms or an Apache or one of those CIA drones.
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Old 04-06-2012, 04:10 PM   #67
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The problem in this country is that the "99%" are the problem....not the 1%.

The sad thing is that they honestly think it's the other way around and progressives/socialists keep encouraging that lie.
The 1% are just as much a part of the problem as the 99% are. They just go about it in different ways.
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Old 04-06-2012, 04:17 PM   #68
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They are programmed for short term thinking and selfishness.
That's natural instinct. All creatures behave this way (the exception being parental instinct)

We are no exception no matter how special we think we are.
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Old 04-06-2012, 04:19 PM   #69
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That's natural instinct. All creatures behave this way (the exception being parental instinct)

We are no exception no matter how special we think we are.

Wrong......I would gladly take the hit both long term and short to secure our Republic. I know others who would do the same.
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The 1% are just as much a part of the problem as the 99% are. They just go about it in different ways.
The 1% isn't getting anywhere near in benefits from the government versus what they pay into the system. It is the 99% that is bankrupting us.
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Old 04-06-2012, 04:20 PM   #71
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Wrong......I would gladly take the hit both long term and short to secure our Republic. I know others who would do the same.
The term to describe that is "outlier."

Besides, you're only willing to do so because you believe it's in your best long term interests.

There is nothing wrong with that by the way, those how species survive.
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Old 04-06-2012, 04:21 PM   #72
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That's natural instinct. All creatures behave this way (the exception being parental instinct)

We are no exception no matter how special we think we are.
That's not really true.
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Old 04-06-2012, 04:23 PM   #73
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The 1% isn't getting anywhere near in benefits from the government versus what they pay into the system. It is the 99% that is bankrupting us.
The 1% benefit just as much from obscene government spending as the 99% do.

Exhibit A is the billion dollar loan our government gave that solar power company. You think it was a bunch of people on welfare who pocketed that cash?
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Old 04-06-2012, 04:25 PM   #74
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That's not really true.
You really want to argue human beings don't consistantly act in their own self interests?
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You really want to argue human beings don't consistantly act in their own self interests?
No. But I will argue that human exceptionalism exists.
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