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Old 05-05-2010, 01:18 PM   #1
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The Re-Opening!!!

Greetings!!!

This announcement is to notify you about the Grand Re-Opening of the Political Playground, along with yours truly, as the new playground moderator. Now as a pig, I'm not averse to getting down and dirty in the mud. However, in my new role, I'm going to do my best to stay above the fray (just like the other MODs told me I better).




As had been alluded to in another post, it is unfortunate that we created the perception to some, that the Political Forum was the primary reason for the changes made to Patriots Planet. It was not. The changes were due to the lack of civility across the board, and as much with the Three Ring Circus as anything. However, the PF did generate the largest number of complaints by far. While I'm not going to name names, one of the things that surprised me upon being promoted to MOD here, was that a few of the regulars in the PF did a fair amount of the complaining about it.

As for my vision of the forum going forward, I'd like to find a way to keep things mostly civil, while still keeping some of the edginess. As I already have a full time job, a family, and a few hobbies (sleeping late and watching TV), I don't have the time or desire to spend as much time as the other MODs did dealing with complaints. Therefore one significant difference going forward will be to ban people from the PF who are causing issues there.

No one is forced to participate in the PF. If you can't handle the fact that people may disagree with some of the things that are very important to you (without resorting to insults), then please, do us all a favor and stay out. This is not the place for you.

I will try to exercise some tolerance about posts in the PF, (more than in other forums), but make no mistake, if flame wars start, people will be getting a vacation, or worse. Also, if I can't figure out who started it (and I don't plan on spending all day to figure it out), then multiple people will be getting a timeout.

One more significant change, if someone formally complains to a MOD about posts in that forum, someone will be getting a sabbatical. However, it might be the complainant, the defendant, or both. Think twice about complaining, and make sure you have a valid issue. I will have a low tolerance for people making frivolous complaints, or complaining about someone else doing the same stuff they are doing (but just on the other side of the argument).

I know the PF can not be all things to all people, so I'm not going to pretend that it can. There are going to be arguments. People are going to disagree. Some feathers may get ruffled, but a modicum of civility must be maintained.

While I likely will make some mistakes along the way, I will welcome feedback on how to draw the line between healthy debate, over the line posts, and maybe even some fun with trolls (before they get bounced). However, at the end of the day, I reserve the right to put on my a-hole hat and do what I think needs to be done, if someone gets out of line (along with the other MODs). Of course, if we encounter major problems, we also reserve the right to shut it down again, this time for good.

Something for all of us to keep in mind, is this excerpt from The 'Acting The Fool' Rule

The moderators of this forum reserve the right to issue punishments based on infractions not specifically listed in the moderation forum, which in our opinion violate the intent or spirit of the new climate here at Patriots Planet.

The general activity that will run you afoul of this policy can be stated as: "Failure to disagree with a poster's opinion without being overly disagreeable."


i.e. Don't be a dickhead.


In closing, for some of you who may not "get" the fascination that some of us have with the political forum, here are some thoughts from some of the people who have posted there in the past.

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There have been lots of substantive discussions in here and a good deal of humor in the banter between people who don't agree. There have been times that I just looked at the thread titles, felt kind of pissed off, and chose not to engage, but kudos to the majority of people here, who were able to express their opinions, joust with people who disagreed without getting too personal, and not be too thin skinned when people pushed their buttons.

I was a little taken aback by the feistiness of the politics forum (read: rabid fury). After getting used to it, though, it wasn't so bad.

Just know that there are a lot of good posters and discussion had up here, and that what is said about the political forum in the main forum may not be truly indicative of the environment (squeaky wheel gets greased syndrome).

Wandering Athol's deconstruction of the Wall St./Fannie|Freddie meltdown and subsequent bailout explanation was/is reason enough to keep this forum open

There's idiocy at times here, but there's also some great back-and-forth here as well

Some of you were here to learn, educate, listen and understand someone's opinion without resorting to personal attacks. In other words, you were open-minded enough to understand but disagree, and realize that THAT is ok.

Sure, I can be as guilty as anyone in the degradation of conversation around here, but I also think that this forum has provided a great way for all political persuasions to make their arguments and maybe even learn a little something.

Even though I've had flame wars with just about everyone in this forum, I'd like you ALL to know that I appreciate your contributions as well as what you've taught me at various points in time.

I would like to thank those who participated in some good debates, those who posted educative opposing views that actually did make me look closer at my views and why I had them.
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Old 05-05-2010, 01:24 PM   #2
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I would personally like to thank dchester for taking on this considerable task. The Political Forum was obviously very important to many Planeteers, and re-opening it with him at the helm should be exciting to everyone who plans to take part in the discussion in this forum.

Everything you see above about how the forum will now work and everything that follows is a direct result of d's management. Huge kudos need to be given to this giant of a man.

Here's to dchester!
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Old 05-05-2010, 01:27 PM   #3
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I too want to thank DC for stepping up to this task

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Old 05-05-2010, 01:32 PM   #4
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Yip dchester best of luck in this forum

Considering this forum is getting reopen to some of the users who wanted it, hopefully they won't muck it up to those who want this part of the Planet to stay around
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Most excellent! My thanks to all involved in this decision, and to d-man for stepping up to the mod challenge!

I hope anyone who left because the PF was gone, will somehow find out it has been resurrected and return. (hint, hint... someone contact them, if you have a way of doing so)
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I'd like to thank the council of 26 for re-instating the playground, and in the spirit of the forum would like to state that anyone who doesn't agree with me is wrong and an idiot.
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Considering this forum is getting reopen to some of the users who wanted it, hopefully they won't muck it up to those who want this part of the Planet to stay around
With dchester watching this place, you can rest assured that that isn't going to happen (one way or another).
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I'd like to thank the council of 26 for re-instating the playground, and in the spirit of the forum would like to state that anyone who doesn't agree with me is wrong and an idiot.
and don't forget, liberal commie









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DC ,You have my love/respect for taking this on....What are you thinkng ??
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DC ,You have my love/respect for taking this on....What are you thinkng ??
He's decided to take the quick road to burn-out >)
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With dchester watching this place, you can rest assured that that isn't going to happen (one way or another).
so now i can post in this forum where before it was a crap shoot for me

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do you need to ask?
well it was dangerous to walk into the PF, as someone who did not post there often due to the crap one got , yes I am asking, will probably only post now that dchester is in charge or any mod is in charge

The long standing members are strong in their views and any one new well it was like open season at times

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well it was dangerous to walk into the PF, as someone who did not post there often due to the crap one got , yes I am asking, will probably only post now that dchester is in charge or any mod is in charge

The long standing members are strong in their views and any one new well it was like open season at times

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and all I am saying is this is a different place, enter without the preconceived opinions of it and see what awaits
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