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Old 01-12-2018, 02:36 PM   #406
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Shocking, I tell you.

Make no mistake. He said it, and these spineless men know he said it. Hopefully, they'll enjoy the comfort of their soft couches for their weak asses after the next election cycle.

Pathetic.
Also, Lindsay Graham confirmed that he said, in words, "shithole countries."
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Yes, there's no other way to explain the issue other than "our society is racist."
But if it, objectively speaking, is, why the need to sugar coat it? If people aren't racist they shouldn't have any issue with wanting to do away with racist practices.

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Norway's economy is oil and gas driven. They are the European Saudi Arabia, so their economic status generally reflects the price of oil and gas.

It's been hard times the last 3 years.

At any rate...Norway is wealthy for the same reason Saudi Arabia is...oil production and gas. Plus, they don't have to pay for their own national defense. It's wealth has about as much to do wth the EU and trade as Saudi Arabia's wealth.

Don't get me wrong, I love Norway, I'm a fan. Just pointing out some economic facts.
Norway has a sovereign wealth fund that makes things cushy for them even if the oil and gas isn't doing well. They've planned ahead for those eventualities for a long time.
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Because when people feel attacked they get defensive. When they get defensive they stop listening. When they stop listening you don't get the change you want.
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So 30 days before the election, his fixer lawyer, Michael Cohen, paid $130k in hush money to porn star Stormy Daniels to shut her up before going on GMA to expose him for cheating on Melania with her.

This is concerning because the Steele Dossier also claims Fixer Cohen was used to cover up illicit behavior.

More importantly, this was published in The Wall Street Journal, traditionally a conservative publication with a pro-Trump editorial page.

Don't get me wrong. I don't give a rat's ass about illicit affairs. Not my business. But this is a man that is constantly talking about Bill Clinton and who Pence and every other evangelical is saying is a good Christian man (...now...). If that were true, confess your faults before all, right?

Nah, just pay them off to shut them up. Probably the same thing that happened when he was in Russia.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-l...nce-1515787678
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For old times sake, can we call this a "bimbo eruption"?
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Seems Dick Durbin is just pulling a play from the playbook that he has used before. Not the first time he lied about something said in a presidential meeting for political purposes.

'I cannot even stand to look at you'

The No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, Sen. Dick Durbin, said in a Facebook post that a House Republican leader told off President Barack Obama during a negotiation meeting, and that GOP leaders are so disrespectful it’s practically impossible to have a conversation with them.

But Wednesday afternoon, both the White House and House speaker’s office denied his claims.

“In a ‘negotiation’ meeting with the president, one GOP House Leader told the president: ‘I cannot even stand to look at you,’” Durbin wrote in a post on his Facebook page over the weekend.

Calling a government shutdown strategy from Republicans “disastrous,” Durbin did not specify which leader made the comment, what the context was or how the president responded. The only time GOP House leaders met with Obama during the shutdown was on Oct. 10, a meeting that Durbin did not attend.

The Senate majority whip offered the comment as rebuttal to the Republican argument that Obama does not do enough to communicate with Republicans, essentially saying to do so is impossible.

“What are the chances of an honest conversation with someone who has just said something so disrespectful?” Durbin wrote.

However, both the White House and the House speaker’s office denied Durbin’s account of events.

Asked about the post in the White House daily briefing, press secretary Jay Carney said he checked with a participant of the meeting in question.

“I looked into this and spoke with somebody who was in that meeting and it did not happen,” Carney said.

House Speaker John Boehner’s spokesman also said the post was not about the top House Republican.

“The speaker certainly didn’t say that and does not recall anyone else doing so,” Michael Steel said.

Sen. Durbin’s office had no comment on the post and offered no further details.

But the speaker’s office called on him to explain.

“Sen. Durbin’s accusation is a serious one, and it appears to have been invented out of thin air. The senator should disclose who told him this account of events, retract his reckless allegation immediately, and apologize,” Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck said in a statement sent out to reporters.

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/...r-obama-098720
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Who is this self-important instigating douche-bag, anyway?
Dude, Baron has been a valued member of this forum for quite some time.
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I've been thinking.....if you are a right winger, and you want to donate a few dollars to help the GOP keep congress, your money might best be spent donating to Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters.

The more publicity they get, the better.

The best part is, when the moonbats accuse you of being a right wing nazi Trumpeteer, you can inform them that you donated to Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters, and prove to them that you aren't.

Just a thought.

In fact, I think I may do that myself.
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Because when people feel attacked they get defensive. When they get defensive they stop listening. When they stop listening you don't get the change you want.
My point is, why would you feel attacked by me saying America has racist institutional practices going on?
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Seems Dick Durbin is just pulling a play from the playbook that he has used before. Not the first time he lied about something said in a presidential meeting for political purposes.

'I cannot even stand to look at you'

The No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, Sen. Dick Durbin, said in a Facebook post that a House Republican leader told off President Barack Obama during a negotiation meeting, and that GOP leaders are so disrespectful it’s practically impossible to have a conversation with them.

But Wednesday afternoon, both the White House and House speaker’s office denied his claims.

“In a ‘negotiation’ meeting with the president, one GOP House Leader told the president: ‘I cannot even stand to look at you,’” Durbin wrote in a post on his Facebook page over the weekend.

Calling a government shutdown strategy from Republicans “disastrous,” Durbin did not specify which leader made the comment, what the context was or how the president responded. The only time GOP House leaders met with Obama during the shutdown was on Oct. 10, a meeting that Durbin did not attend.

The Senate majority whip offered the comment as rebuttal to the Republican argument that Obama does not do enough to communicate with Republicans, essentially saying to do so is impossible.

“What are the chances of an honest conversation with someone who has just said something so disrespectful?” Durbin wrote.

However, both the White House and the House speaker’s office denied Durbin’s account of events.

Asked about the post in the White House daily briefing, press secretary Jay Carney said he checked with a participant of the meeting in question.

“I looked into this and spoke with somebody who was in that meeting and it did not happen,” Carney said.

House Speaker John Boehner’s spokesman also said the post was not about the top House Republican.

“The speaker certainly didn’t say that and does not recall anyone else doing so,” Michael Steel said.

Sen. Durbin’s office had no comment on the post and offered no further details.

But the speaker’s office called on him to explain.

“Sen. Durbin’s accusation is a serious one, and it appears to have been invented out of thin air. The senator should disclose who told him this account of events, retract his reckless allegation immediately, and apologize,” Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck said in a statement sent out to reporters.

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/...r-obama-098720

If Durbin lied, don't you think that one of the SIX REPUBLICAN SENATORS IN THE ROOM would have publicly said so? Although, Tom Cotton's memory might be slightly fuzzy since he probably ejaculated a few seconds after Trump said it.

I don't see how you can see Trump as a more credible source than anyone who doesn't have a crack pipe in their mouth, except for pure partisanship.
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So 30 days before the election, his fixer lawyer, Michael Cohen, paid $130k in hush money to porn star Stormy Daniels to shut her up before going on GMA to expose him for cheating on Melania with her.

This is concerning because the Steele Dossier also claims Fixer Cohen was used to cover up illicit behavior.

More importantly, this was published in The Wall Street Journal, traditionally a conservative publication with a pro-Trump editorial page.

Don't get me wrong. I don't give a rat's ass about illicit affairs. Not my business. But this is a man that is constantly talking about Bill Clinton and who Pence and every other evangelical is saying is a good Christian man (...now...). If that were true, confess your faults before all, right?

Nah, just pay them off to shut them up. Probably the same thing that happened when he was in Russia.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-l...nce-1515787678

This is maybe the only accusation about Trump I don't care about. But, I do wonder if the woman who had a press conference scheduled in Lisa Bloom's office the week before the election, who alleged that Trump and Jeffrey Epstein raped her when she was 13, might have gotten a payout before she suddenly canceled.

That's speculation though, and I know the right wingers here never post any of that.
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This is maybe the only accusation about Trump I don't care about. But, I do wonder if the woman who had a press conference scheduled in Lisa Bloom's office the week before the election, who alleged that Trump and Jeffrey Epstein raped her when she was 13, might have gotten a payout before she suddenly canceled.

That's speculation though, and I know the right wingers here never post any of that.
As I said, I don't care, either.

Unless campaign money was used to pay her off. Then there's a big problem. A very illegal one.
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People from Norway don't want to come here because we have a shithole administration running the government.

And yes, no one can really deny that Donny boo-boos definition of "shithole" is not white.
Actually, it correlates quite well with the UN Human Development Index.

What is the HDI?

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The HDI was created to emphasize that people and their capabilities should be the ultimate criteria for assessing the development of a country, not economic growth alone. The HDI can also be used to question national policy choices, asking how two countries with the same level of GNI per capita can end up with different human development outcomes. These contrasts can stimulate debate about government policy priorities.
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A fuller picture of a country's level of human development requires analysis of other indicators and information presented in the statistical annex of the report.
So yeah, I think that those at the bottom of this ranking could be described as "shithole countries".

Do you dispute this? If yes, why?

With the exception of Syria, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Yemen, and Afghanistan, the 40 countries in the "Low Human Development" category are all in Africa. The only other one is Hati.

Oh and do you know who's ranked #1?

Norway.
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Dick Durbin was in the room and confirmed it, saying that he said it multiple times.

WaPo and CNN were not the only sources indicating this was said. Multiple, including Reuters, AP, and others.

He said it. He meant it. He has said many times that people from Africa and Haiti have AIDS, amongst other ignorant things. The WH is spinning this once again as "locker room" talk, things people say at bars every day. Sorry, but I don't ever hear people at bars say things like this.

Bottom line for me: If we can't have empathy and understand the suffering of people from other nations, we have lost our humanity. And let's not forget, this country was built on the backs of slaves brought from Africa and Haiti.

F**k him. Has gone zero days without being a national embarrassment.
Ummm you do realize that AIDS is endemic in both regions, right?

This is what Wiki has to say about Africa.

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Although the continent is home to about 15.2 percent of the world's population,[1] more than two-thirds of the total, some 35 million infected, were Africans, of whom 15 million have already died.[2] Sub-Saharan Africa alone accounted for an estimated 69 percent of all people living with HIV[3] and 70 percent of all AIDS deaths in 2011
This is what Wiki has to say about Hati.

Quote:
With an estimated 150,000 people living with HIV/AIDS in 2016 (or an appoximately 2.1 percent prevalence rate among adults aged 15–49), Haiti has the most overall cases of HIV/AIDS in the Caribbean and its HIV prevelance rates among the highest percentage-wise in the region.[2]
So it is indisputable that AIDS is endemic in these populations.
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