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Old 11-02-2017, 10:21 AM   #496
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There were what, 22k people at this concert and 3 of them have died since the attack?
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There were what, 22k people at this concert and 3 of them have died since the attack?
I'm not sure how many people were actually present at the time of the shooting. I think the 22,000 might be the total number of tickets sold or something.
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Old 11-02-2017, 10:30 AM   #498
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Jason Aldean draws huge crowds to his shows and I would venture to guess that most of the people that went to this event, went there to see him perform.
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Jason Aldean draws huge crowds to his shows and I would venture to guess that most of the people that went to this event, went there to see him perform.
Could be.

I was just going by this being a multi day event, and the size of the venue, trying to mentally compare it to the number of people tailgating at a football game.

Just in terms of the volume of space available, it doesn't seem like the venue can hold 20,000 or so at one time, but I could be totally wrong about that.

I'm just thinking it looks like a large parking lot, about the size of a single parking lot at a football stadium, which sports many such lots.

But...I could be totally wrong, as I said.

Anyway, I am less interested in how many of them die, than I am in which ones are dying and what they had stated about the events that took place.

I'm still in "what the Hell happened here" mode, I haven't drawn any ideas or theories yet...but if it were a coverup of multiple shooters, for example...you don't have to go and off 20,000 survivors....you only have to kill the ones that testify that they actually saw other shooters....the rest can be explained away as echoes, or panic, or just plain gaslighting them.
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I've been hoping my daughter would open up and talk to us about her experience that night but she hasn't. She has gone to a meeting with other people from San Diego that were there a few times and to a HMO counselor once. She's doing pretty good but I still can't bring myself to broach the subject with her. Hopefully in due time she'll let us in. Thankfully she's not posting publicly about it either.
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I've been hoping my daughter would open up and talk to us about her experience that night but she hasn't. She has gone to a meeting with other people from San Diego that were there a few times and to a HMO counselor once. She's doing pretty good but I still can't bring myself to broach the subject with her. Hopefully in due time she'll let us in. Thankfully she's not posting publicly about it either.
Had no idea she was there, thank god she wasn't injured or worse. I hope she is able to heal and eventually talk about it with those close to her.
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I've been hoping my daughter would open up and talk to us about her experience that night but she hasn't. She has gone to a meeting with other people from San Diego that were there a few times and to a HMO counselor once. She's doing pretty good but I still can't bring myself to broach the subject with her. Hopefully in due time she'll let us in. Thankfully she's not posting publicly about it either.
This was such a traumatic and life-altering event for her. You might want to broach the subject just to make sure there aren't any indications of PTSD.

Glad to hear she appears to be doing all right. What a horrific fright for all of you.
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Explosive Documentary Reveals Potential Motive in Vegas Massacre, Exposes Police Cover Up
Damning information has been presented showing a police cover-up and a potential motive as to why the Vegas massacre took place.

Las Vegas, NV — As conspiracy theories run rampant online and in the media about the who, what, and why of the deadliest mass shooting in recent American history, a documentary has just revealed some incredibly telling information. In the new film, police are exposed for covering up the details of the shooting—because the casino allegedly paid them to.

Since the horrific massacre took place nearly three months ago, details and evidence presented by law enforcement have been scant at best. This is not a coincidence. One of the most telling details about the information in this case is the complete and literal blackout of any images or video that show Stephen Paddock in the Mandalay Bay casino.

While there has been much speculation as to why no video has been released, the documentary now provides an answer—the casino is playing a massive game of CYA (cover your ass).

The new film, titled, “What Happened in Vegas,” explores the role of the Las Vegas Police Department covering up the details of the shooting—for the sole benefit of their bosses in the casino. As to why the police department would deliberately keep secret what is likely the most sought-after information of 2017, the documentary explains that they are in the pocket of the casinos who would be liable for tens of millions in lawsuits because they failed to stop Stephen Paddock from killing 58 people that fateful night.

As Raw Story notes, at the root of the problem, the film explains, is that the LVPD is run by a sheriff elected in large part by donations from MGM, the corporation that runs the Mandalay Bay hotel. According to the documentary, Las Vegas police changed their story multiple times on the timeline of the shooting. One important detail the police lied about in several instances is the timing of Paddock’s shooting of security guard Jesus Campos. Why? It’s likely that the LVPD wanted to help the casino’s legal case, and if they claimed Campos was shot while trying to prevent Paddock’s rampage, as opposed to during or after, it could help the casino’s lawyers later claim that the Mandalay Bay had taken sufficient action to stop him. At least seven news organizations have since sued the LVPD for failing to release all the information from the night of the shooting, including the New York Times, the Associated Press, ABC, the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times.

According to Stephen Stubbs, an attorney representing some of the victims in the shooting, Paddock was able to kill so many people that night because the casino treated him differently because he was a high roller. Instead of calling 911 when the shooting began, the casino called their “special back number” to a private wing of the police department in an attempt to keep the incident under wraps.

Because Paddock was a regular high roller at the casino, Mandalay bay didn’t call 911 and so dispatch was not able to link the shooting inside the hotel with the shooting a the Route 91 music festival.

“If they would’ve called 911, the 911 operator could have linked the two quicker, and the police would have gotten there quicker,” Stubbs said. “Less people would have died, and less people would have been shot if the Mandalay Bay didn’t treat their high rollers differently, and if the LVPD didn’t allow casinos to treat high rollers differently. This is the truth that [Sheriff] Joe Lombardo doesn’t want to come out.”

Given this information, the pieces of the puzzle now fall into place. As TFTP has previously reported, because of his high roller status, Paddock was also granted special privileges at the casino—like access to the service elevator.

One of the most asked questions about the massacre in Las Vegas was, “How did Stephen Paddock get hundreds of pounds of ammo and nearly two dozen assault rifles into his suite on the 32 floor of Mandalay Bay without anyone noticing?” Well, now we know—he was allowed to use the service elevator.

The fact that Paddock had access to the elevator, coupled with the fact that a special back line to police was called instead of 911—the casino now becomes complicit in allowing so many people to die that night.

We now have a motive for the parent company of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, MGM Resorts International, for paying a crisis management firm, Joele Frank, to spread disinformation about the massacre online. It keeps people confused so no one looks at them.

As TFTP noted at the time, the conspiracy theory report details how MGM International hired Joele Frank to run damage control in the wake of the deadly attack that left 58 people dead on Oct. 1. Michael’s report subsequently exposes ties between the crisis management firm and numerous Twitter accounts posting clearly bogus conspiracy theories about the mass-shooting, claiming “the shooting was fake, there was no blood, no victims, crisis actors, the whole nine-yards.”

While all this information helps us to put the cover up of the shooting by police into perspective, Stubbs delves further and offers up a convincing theory as to why Paddock did what he did. “From what I understand, Stephen Paddock did this because he wanted to hurt these casinos financially, and this was the best way he knew how.” However, because the casino responded the way they did, they became complicit in the death toll. “It didn’t have to be this bad,” Stubbs said, noting, “if they would have treated him like anyone else.”

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Las Vegas shooter Paddock had child porn on computer, FBI investigating person of interest: sheriff

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Metro lawyers: There are additional suspects in 1 October

LAS VEGAS (FOX5) -

Even though it has been three months since Stephen Paddock opened fire into a crowd at the Route 91 Harvest Festival, the public still knows very little about what happened. Las Vegas Metro police have not released what kind of guns Paddock used or videos of Paddock inside Mandalay Bay and the investigation thus far has not yielded a motive for the massacre.

Inside a district courtroom on Jan. 16, a lawyer for multiple media outlets argued why information pertaining to 1 October is crucial to helping Las Vegas heal, but the lawyer for Metro Police said they can't release any information because there are still suspects being investigated.

"Without naming names, there are potential charges against other people, because of the ongoing investigation?", District Court Judge Elissa Cadish asked Metro's Lawyer Nick Crosby.

"Yes there are charges being investigated," Crosby replied. That was the biggest piece of new information revealed Tuesday. Lawyers for Metro police squared off with lawyers representing multiple media outlets over the unsealing of search warrants and evidence seized.

Metro police maintain because of possible new suspects they should not have to release anything pertaining to the obtaining of the search warrants or any evidence seized because of them.

"Are they investigating obstruction of justice? Lies to Metro under oath from Mandalay Bay employees? Is it people who sold [Paddock] the guns or ammunition? Or did someone have knowledge of what he was going to do? Now [Metro Police] are just having us speculate more and more and more," Craig Island, an attorney for victim's of 1 October said.

In response to the news about possible charges, the judge asked Metro's lawyer Nick Crosby how long it might take for those to come to fruition, to which Crosby responded, maybe 60 days.

"Today is the first time we've heard there are additional suspects out there, this contradicts what they have been saying, [Sheriff] Lombardo has said there are no other suspects," Maggie McCletchie, a lawyer for the media outlets said.


McCletchie argues Metro has had three months to show they are still investigating, and that there are in fact other suspects, and said enough is enough; the public has a right to know what happened.

"There are important therapeutic effects of getting information out there after a tragedy," she said. "The public has a right to know and shouldn't just have to rely on what the sheriff and other law enforcement is saying."

Metro said they cannot discuss why they cannot release evidence because it would negatively impact their investigation and asked the judge for an in-camera or private meeting to prove their case. Judge Cadish gave them until next week, and said by the end of next week she will decide whether information related to the search warrants will be unsealed, remain sealed or if she needs to have a meeting with Metro.

Attorney Maggie McCletchie said one week is too long and said every day that goes by is another violation of the first amendment.

"The public has a dire need to know what happened on 1 October," McCletchie said.

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/37279...s-in-1-october
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So, Clark Country Coroner's Office is refusing to release the coroner's report, in outright defiance of court order, and not just publically, but not even to his next of kin.

Not at all suspicious.

Judge orders release of Las Vegas shooting autopsy reports

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The “news magazine “ inside edition was talking about this story yesterday and said there was an additional person of interest, a gun shop owner who sold him 720 rounds of ammunition and acted like that is a huge amount of ammo. I went to the range Monday and with through 150 rounds of ammo in 30 minutes. Isn’t the first time they sensationalized a news story.
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The “news magazine “ inside edition was talking about this story yesterday and said there was an additional person of interest, a gun shop owner who sold him 720 rounds of ammunition and acted like that is a huge amount of ammo. I went to the range Monday and with through 150 rounds of ammo in 30 minutes. Isn’t the first time they sensationalized a news story.
I buy 100 rounds a week...minimum. Not counting my shotgun ammunition.
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The “news magazine “ inside edition was talking about this story yesterday and said there was an additional person of interest, a gun shop owner who sold him 720 rounds of ammunition and acted like that is a huge amount of ammo. I went to the range Monday and with through 150 rounds of ammo in 30 minutes. Isn’t the first time they sensationalized a news story.
He's just a person of interest, meaning he's got some info on the shooter that he needs to share with them.

Sounds to me like he did nothing wrong and like you said, 720 rounds is not a large amount of ammo to those of us that shoot. The type of ammo he sold is perfectly legal too so there's nothing that will get him into hot water.
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Mandalay Bay owners sue victims of Las Vegas mass shooting

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/17...-shooting.html

Yeah, you read that right.
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Who is this self-important instigating douche-bag, anyway?
Dude, Baron has been a valued member of this forum for quite some time.
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