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Old 09-24-2012, 06:51 PM   #16
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:00 AM   #17
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It looks like some progress has been made in the talks.

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mike freeman@realfreemancbs NFL and officials have reached at least a partial compromise on 21 full-time officials in developmental program.
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Albert Breer@AlbertBreer The NFL and NFLRA have reached an agreement on the issue of backup crews. Will have a developmental program. Pension remains an issue.
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NFL@nfl League, NFLRA negotiated past midnight Tuesday: http://on.nfl.com/BreerRefsUpdate (via @AlbertBreer)
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The NFL and the NFL Referees Association have come to an agreement on the issue of backup crews, an NFLRA source said Wednesday.
The 21 backup officials, who will not be NFLRA members, will be in a developmental program. The purpose of the developmental league is to train the backup officials and expose them how to work with the NFL.
The 21 backup officials will work with NFL crews throughout the week but will not work games and will not be eligible to be subbed out.
The two sides negotiated past midnight Tuesday, a source on both sides of the negotiations said.
The owners who have shown no inclination to budge on the referees' benefits issues have gotten more involved in the negotiations, according to the source, and the federal mediator has done well to keep talks on track.
The officials have enjoyed defined-benefit pension plan, and the league has been seeking, in these negotiations, to terminate that plan and switch the NFLRA over to a 401(k)
Negotiations are expected to continue.
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Many of the veteran referees, who are part-time employees of the NFL, opted out of retirement plans at their full-time jobs because of the NFL pension, making the switch a non-starter in these talks for them. According to NFLRA sources, offers have been made to grandfather in the existing referees and have the new ones on 401(k) plans, which a source briefed on the negotiations said the league found "untenable", given the climate of the American economy.
The other -- and less divisive -- issue revolves around the NFL's proposal to add 21 officials to the current roster of 121.
The NFL wants to create a "culture of accountability" in evaluating crews on a week-to-week basis, with the ability to bench a crew for poor performance. The NFLRA's concerns with that are:
amount of work, and officials being paid per game.
1) It would affect compensation, as there would be more people for the same
2) The problem of job security for referees, which becomes more problematic with a set rotation that makes each official less valuable.
The NFL thinks the addition of a large number of officials would provide a better opportunity to more consistently put the best officials at each game.
As for the Seahawks game, one league source said, "We get that it's painful. Even though it's short-term pain, no one likes going through it." But the thought is that the long-term gain of better officiating across the board would be worth it.
Nothing is set in stone, but absent a resolution Tuesday and barring another breakdown in talks, the sides are expected to continue talking throughout the week.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...h-straight-day
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:30 AM   #18
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What I said in another thread

I hope when they do come back they get a chant in each stadium of "Welcome BACK!!!"

Just as a good kick to the balls of the owners, for allowing this shit to happen in the first place
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