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View Poll Results: Do you trust Elixir Guerrero?
Yes, with all my heart 4 13.33%
No, he's a bad man Boss 9 30.00%
not sure but Something stinks in the septic tank 13 43.33%
Thomas is Alex, Elixir is Thomas144 and Spaghetti Monster controls him 6 20.00%
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:19 AM   #1
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TB12 and Elixir Guerrero - how comfortable are you with his honesty?

I mean I am officially changing his name to Elixir Guerrero for the concoctions he creates but do you think he is the Patriots Yoko Ono?

and will his quick response condemning (P)Edelman be the strike that forces Bill to swing for the fences?
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I know that if I was considering working with him I would not after how quickly he tossed JE.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:30 AM   #3
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I know that if I was considering working with him I would not after how quickly he tossed JE.
I am sure Tom and Jules will have a talk about that shortly and hope it doesn't break up the band.
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I believe him.

I can’t in my wildest envision TB surrendering his legacy to a guy already under the microscope from past exploitations.

Just because JE is a TB12 client doesn’t mean it’s the only place he gets his products from. And he could have gone outside the parameters of their recommended program.

Let’s face it, he plays a far more taxing position than QB. He’s over 30. He’s coming off major surgery. And his game is totally reliant on quickness and explosion. I don’t put it past him to dabble in some HgH, Cream/Clear, whatever to get back and earn millions. I sure as F would.

To drop it in Guerrero’s lap with absolutely zero evidence is shamefully irresponsible and Ill leave to major media.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:41 AM   #5
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I believe him.

I canít in my wildest envision TB surrendering his legacy to a guy already under the microscope from past exploitations.

Just because JE is a TB12 client doesnít mean itís the only place he gets his products from. And he could have gone outside the parameters of their recommended program.

Letís face it, he plays a far more taxing position than QB. Heís over 30. Heís coming off major surgery. And his game is totally reliant on quickness and explosion. I donít put it past him to dabble in some HgH, Cream/Clear, whatever to get back and earn millions. I sure as F would.

To drop it in Guerreroís lap with absolutely zero evidence is shamefully irresponsible and Ill leave to major media.
why not simply say:

"Jules works harder than anyone, we are saddened by the report and will hope his appeal clears him"

no need to say he stresses "Legal approach to training"
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why not simply say:

"Jules works harder than anyone, we are saddened by the report and will hope his appeal clears him"

no need to say he stresses "Legal approach to training"
Because your quote does nothing to state innocence.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:53 AM   #7
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Because your quote does nothing to state innocence.
one of Tom's buddies tossed a different one under the bus, that can't be a good thing.


Any word on what he took?
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I don't watch much TV...
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one of Tom's buddies tossed a different one under the bus, that can't be a good thing.


Any word on what he took?
What?
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Elixir Guerrero tossed Jules Edelman under the bus with his response:

"Iíve known Julian since his rookie year and he is a phenomenal athlete who takes his training seriously ó itís disappointing to hear todayís news,Ē Guerrero said in the statement issued Thursday night. ďElite athletes sometimes work with multiple coaches and health professionals as part of their off-season training."

"Here at our facility, we take a natural, holistic, appropriate and, above all, legal approach to training and recovery for all of our clients,Ē he continued. ďAnd anyone who would suggest otherwise is irresponsible, and just plain wrong.Ē

or

'Don't blame me he took something, I didn't give it to him it is his other trainers fault"


when; "sorry to hear about this, I will wait for the news to settle and I know more before commenting" is all he had to say but he was protecting his Voodoo witchcraft.
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The guru is protecting his brand/image. He has a lot at stake.
Exactly.

As anyone here would if it were thereís.

Thereís 2 options. Take mikies version and hope the appeal clears JE and subsequently your name. If not you might as well soap up the windows and move out.

Or deny it completely and put the onus on JE to take responsibility for HIS actions. It is HIS choice.
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It seemed pretty clear to me watching Tom vs Time that JE was not all in on the TB12 method. There was a scene where JE and Guerrero took a few friendly jabs at each other over their training methods.

Trying to blame TB12 for one guy getting popped for PED's is flawed. That would like be like claiming the patriots training staff supplied Ninkovich with a banned substance. These guys make their own decisions/mistakes.
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