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View Poll Results: Do you trust Elixir Guerrero?
Yes, with all my heart 4 13.33%
No, he's a bad man Boss 9 30.00%
not sure but Something stinks in the septic tank 13 43.33%
Thomas is Alex, Elixir is Thomas144 and Spaghetti Monster controls him 6 20.00%
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:19 AM   #1
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TB12 and Elixir Guerrero - how comfortable are you with his honesty?

I mean I am officially changing his name to Elixir Guerrero for the concoctions he creates but do you think he is the Patriots Yoko Ono?

and will his quick response condemning (P)Edelman be the strike that forces Bill to swing for the fences?
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I know that if I was considering working with him I would not after how quickly he tossed JE.
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I know that if I was considering working with him I would not after how quickly he tossed JE.
I am sure Tom and Jules will have a talk about that shortly and hope it doesn't break up the band.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:37 AM   #4
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I believe him.

I can’t in my wildest envision TB surrendering his legacy to a guy already under the microscope from past exploitations.

Just because JE is a TB12 client doesn’t mean it’s the only place he gets his products from. And he could have gone outside the parameters of their recommended program.

Let’s face it, he plays a far more taxing position than QB. He’s over 30. He’s coming off major surgery. And his game is totally reliant on quickness and explosion. I don’t put it past him to dabble in some HgH, Cream/Clear, whatever to get back and earn millions. I sure as F would.

To drop it in Guerrero’s lap with absolutely zero evidence is shamefully irresponsible and Ill leave to major media.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:41 AM   #5
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I believe him.

I canít in my wildest envision TB surrendering his legacy to a guy already under the microscope from past exploitations.

Just because JE is a TB12 client doesnít mean itís the only place he gets his products from. And he could have gone outside the parameters of their recommended program.

Letís face it, he plays a far more taxing position than QB. Heís over 30. Heís coming off major surgery. And his game is totally reliant on quickness and explosion. I donít put it past him to dabble in some HgH, Cream/Clear, whatever to get back and earn millions. I sure as F would.

To drop it in Guerreroís lap with absolutely zero evidence is shamefully irresponsible and Ill leave to major media.
why not simply say:

"Jules works harder than anyone, we are saddened by the report and will hope his appeal clears him"

no need to say he stresses "Legal approach to training"
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:43 AM   #6
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why not simply say:

"Jules works harder than anyone, we are saddened by the report and will hope his appeal clears him"

no need to say he stresses "Legal approach to training"
Because your quote does nothing to state innocence.
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Because your quote does nothing to state innocence.
one of Tom's buddies tossed a different one under the bus, that can't be a good thing.


Any word on what he took?
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one of Tom's buddies tossed a different one under the bus, that can't be a good thing.


Any word on what he took?
What?
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I believe him.

I canít in my wildest envision TB surrendering his legacy to a guy already under the microscope from past exploitations.

Just because JE is a TB12 client doesnít mean itís the only place he gets his products from. And he could have gone outside the parameters of their recommended program.

Letís face it, he plays a far more taxing position than QB. Heís over 30. Heís coming off major surgery. And his game is totally reliant on quickness and explosion. I donít put it past him to dabble in some HgH, Cream/Clear, whatever to get back and earn millions. I sure as F would.

To drop it in Guerreroís lap with absolutely zero evidence is shamefully irresponsible and Ill leave to major media.
The main bitch I've got against Guerrero (in this instance, I have many overall) is his "disappointing" tweet. Even if he had zero to do with Edelman getting popped he shouldn't be saying a G*ddamn thing! He's an outside "trainer". And the to post something judgemental and disparaging towards any Pats player? F*ck him with a red hot buttplug! BB must have been apoplectic when he saw that tweet.

Actually the big fear I have with the "impending news" is: BB saw that tweet and laid down the law and banned Guerrero. Not just from the facility but from working with any Patriot in the offseason (i.e. the player would be out of here) and it isn't sitting well with some high profile players.

PS-I don't think that would include Brady. If it came down to an ultimatim of Guerrero or the Pats. Tom would pick the Pats.
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The main bitch I've got against Guerrero (in this instance, I have many overall) is his "disappointing" tweet. Even if he had zero to do with Edelman getting popped he shouldn't be saying a G*ddamn thing! He's an outside "trainer". And the to post something judgemental and disparaging towards any Pats player? F*ck him with a red hot buttplug! BB must have been apoplectic when he saw that tweet.

Actually the big fear I have with the "impending news" is: BB saw that tweet and laid down the law and banned Guerrero. Not just from the facility but from working with any Patriot in the offseason (i.e. the player would be out of here) and it isn't sitting well with some high profile players.

PS-I don't think that would include Brady. If it came down to an ultimatim of Guerrero or the Pats. Tom would pick the Pats.


The only thing I can say to defend his tweet, was he was getting torched in the media for being involved, and when you run a business its all about the bottom line, and he has to protect that brand. I doubt he does say anything if he was not dragged into it, and he was.
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The only thing I can say to defend his tweet, was he was getting torched in the media for being involved, and when you run a business its all about the bottom line, and he has to protect that brand. I doubt he does say anything if he was not dragged into it, and he was.
so he screws over Toms buddy Jules.

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The main bitch I've got against Guerrero (in this instance, I have many overall) is his "disappointing" tweet. Even if he had zero to do with Edelman getting popped he shouldn't be saying a G*ddamn thing! He's an outside "trainer". And the to post something judgemental and disparaging towards any Pats player? F*ck him with a red hot buttplug! BB must have been apoplectic when he saw that tweet.

Actually the big fear I have with the "impending news" is: BB saw that tweet and laid down the law and banned Guerrero. Not just from the facility but from working with any Patriot in the offseason (i.e. the player would be out of here) and it isn't sitting well with some high profile players.

PS-I don't think that would include Brady. If it came down to an ultimatim of Guerrero or the Pats. Tom would pick the Pats.
well said
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so he screws over Toms buddy Jules.

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well said
Screws over? Not sure. I think its unprofessional to attack his company based on what a player does because he happened to work out there. I mean would you rather he said, hey we injected Julian with stuff while he slept? It seems like people are looking for a loophole to protect Edelman and using an offseason drama story to do it. In the end, the only person who is to blame for putting something in their body is that person.
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The main bitch I've got against Guerrero (in this instance, I have many overall) is his "disappointing" tweet. Even if he had zero to do with Edelman getting popped he shouldn't be saying a G*ddamn thing! He's an outside "trainer". And the to post something judgemental and disparaging towards any Pats player? F*ck him with a red hot buttplug! BB must have been apoplectic when he saw that tweet.

Actually the big fear I have with the "impending news" is: BB saw that tweet and laid down the law and banned Guerrero. Not just from the facility but from working with any Patriot in the offseason (i.e. the player would be out of here) and it isn't sitting well with some high profile players.

PS-I don't think that would include Brady. If it came down to an ultimatim of Guerrero or the Pats. Tom would pick the Pats.
Brady has a side hustle bidness (soon to be his full time bidness) with the guru...I beg to differ. This is a way bigger zoomed out version view for Brady imo. Like, could be in the billions of dollars per year potential.

No.

BB has no right on what Brady does with his training...as long as it's "legal". OK, as long as it's in the Pats facility...then he does.

Brady and his crew should just do their thing afterwards then. Bypass BB.

I can see both sides...
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I don't watch much TV...
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