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Old 02-17-2018, 07:22 PM   #286
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Just seen this from PFF - the top graded QBs in the 2017 NFL Season (Regular & Post-season) - Brady is number 1 by a fair margin.




Cliff? What cliff?
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There are a few scary things about the 2018 cap.

They are handing out about 30 million in raises (cap numbers) to guys like Brady(8), Cooks(6.9), Gronk(4.4), Gilmore(3.9), Hightower(3.1), Cannon(2.2), McCourty(1), Guy(0.5)

There are only a few players like Chung (-2.4) who are due less against the cap.

There are some obvious moves like cutting Branch (save 3.5) and Dwayne Allen (save 5.0) Maybe Gilislee (save 2.2) Bennett(6.2 cap) may retire, or maybe they get creative with him.

I am not worried about replacing Amendola with Jules back and Mitchell getting healthy. RB is going to be weird. Would Vereen come back cheap for a year or 2 after he got his payday in NY? Do they cut Gilislee and bring back Burkhead? What do they do at LT and depth T? Is Rowe their #2 corner or do they target a mid range guy?
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Just seen this from PFF - the top graded QBs in the 2017 NFL Season (Regular & Post-season) - Brady is number 1 by a fair margin.




Cliff? What cliff?
Brady should have been unanimous MVP this year. Todd Guley had an awesome 3 game stretch but his year was nothing special.

I do have to say that any rating system that thinks Matt Ryan was as good as Drew Brees this year is fairly useless.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:55 AM   #289
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Just seen this from PFF - the top graded QBs in the 2017 NFL Season (Regular & Post-season) - Brady is number 1 by a fair margin.


Cliff? What cliff?
That is because in additional to his regular season MVP performance, he had a blistering post-season. The best 3 game post-season run of his career with 8 TDs, 0 picks, 1,140 yards passing, 108 passer rating. Oh and he did all that with a 12 stitch gash on his throwing hand.

One other tid bit - Brady has a 97 passer rating for his regular season career. He has a 98 rating in the Super Bowl.

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Brady should have been unanimous MVP this year. Todd Guley had an awesome 3 game stretch but his year was nothing special.

I do have to say that any rating system that thinks Matt Ryan was as good as Drew Brees this year is fairly useless.
The Gurley mantra for MVP is one of the best examples of the media hate toward Brady. Imagine if it had been Rodgers who was having Brady's season, does Gurley even get mentioned for his little run in Dec? Does Antonio Brown get a mention with his 9 Td catches? It is a prime example of the ridiculous media bias toward Brady that has prevented him from winning more MVPs over his career.

Still, as much as it sucks to not have gotten ring #6, I take a lot of joy and solace in Brady's third league MVP as it moves him up to rarified air in NFL history with only a handful of players ever winning it 3 times and adds yet another layer of cement to his already minted GOAT status. It also has Rodgers talking already about wanting to win another MVP (he has two) as we all know he is more concerned about his individual accomplishments than his team winning a championship.
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There are a few scary things about the 2018 cap.

They are handing out about 30 million in raises (cap numbers) to guys like Brady(8), Cooks(6.9), Gronk(4.4), Gilmore(3.9), Hightower(3.1), Cannon(2.2), McCourty(1), Guy(0.5)

There are only a few players like Chung (-2.4) who are due less against the cap.

There are some obvious moves like cutting Branch (save 3.5) and Dwayne Allen (save 5.0) Maybe Gilislee (save 2.2) Bennett(6.2 cap) may retire, or maybe they get creative with him.

I am not worried about replacing Amendola with Jules back and Mitchell getting healthy. RB is going to be weird. Would Vereen come back cheap for a year or 2 after he got his payday in NY? Do they cut Gilislee and bring back Burkhead? What do they do at LT and depth T? Is Rowe their #2 corner or do they target a mid range guy?
Oh god.

Another Amendola gone acolyte.
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Oh god.

Another Amendola gone acolyte.
If the Pats get rid of Dola who will have a quiet regular season only to put in clutch performances in the post-season?
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If the Pats get rid of Dola who will have a quiet regular season only to put in clutch performances in the post-season?
Exactly.

Add glowing praise from the HC and QB.

And the fact when a clutch play needs to be made it’s DA or Gronk TB looks to.

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There are a few scary things about the 2018 cap.

Is Rowe their #2 corner


By far the scariest.




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By far the scariest.




I like Rowe although his injury history is a concern but don't sleep on Jonathan Jones who took big strides forward this year. For all the talk about Butler in the SB, we missed Jones just as much maybe moreso.
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I like Rowe although his injury history is a concern but don't sleep on Jonathan Jones who took big strides forward this year. For all the talk about Butler in the SB, we missed Jones just as much maybe moreso.
I like Rowe too. But as a #3, not a #2. He's good in spurts and mostly against bigger receivers.


Have we completely written off Cyrus Jones at this point?
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I like Rowe too. But as a #3, not a #2. He's good in spurts and mostly against bigger receivers.


Have we completely written off Cyrus Jones at this point?
I don't think BB has written off Cyrus. I really don't expect us to make a big splash at CB. It really is not a need compared to the front 7 especially DE/OLB. I don't see BB going out and spending a lot on a second CB given what we are paying Gilmore. I think the guys we have will be fine.
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I can easily see our first pick being a CB.
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I can easily see our first pick being a CB.
I'd prefer a stud ILB, but I wouldn't complain.
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