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Old 05-04-2011, 08:33 AM   #61
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Thank you Mayo and I will take a look at him.

However, I've seen a lot of Kuechley and nobody can tell me that he can't play inside in a 3-4. That is kind of ridiculous in my opinion. He's at least as tall as Mayo, probably taller and can always add a few pounds of muscle.

I've seen him take on lineman a hundred times and he wins just about every time. He's a tackling machine and had more awareness and intensity as a freshman than most of the guys that got drafted last week.

He has only gotten smarter since.

His productivity is off the charts already. He is the leader of that BC D and I believe his measurements will be fine when the time comes. I see no earthly reason why anybody can declare that he is not a prospect for the Pats at this point. The guy just finds a way to get his job done every time.

The Dan Morgan comparison is a valid one, imo, he was on his way to an excellent career in the bigs until his body broke down. Kuechley is completely healthy as far as I know.

Long way to go, brother.
I'm sure Kuechley could play inside at 3-4 SILB. But that's his only position, and we already have one. Other guys have more versatility.

Anyway, it's a long way off. Right now, my focus is just to bring up potential players of interest to keep an eye on over the next 7-8 months.
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6'3" 235 and just turned 20.

I think it's very safe to say with 2 more seasons of eligibility he could easily grow another inch and add 10-15 lbs.

The kid just makes plays all over the field. Bruschi-esque. Tackles everything. Crazy interceptions. Game changer.

I'd select him and dump Spikes if given the opportunity in a mili-second.
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6'3" 235 and just turned 20.

I think it's very safe to say with 2 more seasons of eligibility he could easily grow another inch and add 10-15 lbs.

The kid just makes plays all over the field. Bruschi-esque. Tackles everything. Crazy interceptions. Game changer.

I'd select him and dump Spikes if given the opportunity in a mili-second.
Again, I have nothing against Kuechley. And I see plenty of room to upgrade SILB if Spikes doesn't improve. But I wouldn't limit my net to Kuechley. 2012 should be the best ILB/MLB class in 20 years, and there are some really good prospects out there. Kuechley gets a lot of attention playing in our backyard, and he should certainly be on the list of guys to follow closely. But don't overlook the other guys, too. For certain BB won't be sentimental about any pick.
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Defensive players on the 2011 Lott watch list:

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/ta...me/shayne-skov

Quenton Coples, DE, North Carolina. 6'7" 270#
Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama. 6'4" 258#
Luke Kuechly, MLB, Boston College. 6'3" 235#
Shayne Skov, MLB, Stanford. 6'3" 243#
Kenny Tate, FS/LB, Maryland. 6'4" 220#
Manti Te'o, MLB, Notre Dame. 6'2" 245#
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Mocking the Draft profiles USC OT Matt Kalil:

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/...prospect-notes
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6'3" 235 and just turned 20.

I think it's very safe to say with 2 more seasons of eligibility he could easily grow another inch and add 10-15 lbs.

The kid just makes plays all over the field. Bruschi-esque. Tackles everything. Crazy interceptions. Game changer.

I'd select him and dump Spikes if given the opportunity in a mili-second.
I'm still a little pissed at Spikes for the PED thing and/or being naive, but even prior to that I wasn't blown away by his progress.

I'm not close to giving up on him and a guy like him might just need time to understand what he sees to react quicker and make more plays.

In general, I think there were times when Brandon looked good and stretches where he tended to disappear, but this year should give a real good indication as to whether we are as set there as it appeared early last season. I will mention that for all the rep he brought for being a big hitter I didn't see much of that.

I'm about half serious about Kuechley, but I do tend to love real old school football players as opposed to flashy athletes and he is certainly the former.

I'll bet Belichick has already watched tape on the kid just for fun. He's textbook.
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In general, I think there were times when Brandon looked good and stretches where he tended to disappear, but this year should give a real good indication as to whether we are as set there as it appeared early last season. I will mention that for all the rep he brought for being a big hitter I didn't see much of that.
I agree with you about Spikes. He has a lot to do before he's even close to Steve Nelson.
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One thing that stuck with me with Spikes:

A completion to a TE who turns and heads upfield towards the sideline. Spikes starts his pursuit, if you could call it that. I thought I was watching the return of Keith Byars and his mini-strides.
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I'm still a little pissed at Spikes for the PED thing and/or being naive, but even prior to that I wasn't blown away by his progress.

I'm not close to giving up on him and a guy like him might just need time to understand what he sees to react quicker and make more plays.

In general, I think there were times when Brandon looked good and stretches where he tended to disappear, but this year should give a real good indication as to whether we are as set there as it appeared early last season. I will mention that for all the rep he brought for being a big hitter I didn't see much of that.

I'm about half serious about Kuechley, but I do tend to love real old school football players as opposed to flashy athletes and he is certainly the former.

I'll bet Belichick has already watched tape on the kid just for fun. He's textbook.
I thought Brandon looked pretty good against Pitt and NYJ. Since he didn't play a whole lot against either Indy or Det because NE was in nickle for something like 80% of both games, I felt like he was progressing at the perfect time.

He is a slow, which is problematic for a rookie because he doesn't have the ability to make up for a mental mistake. So when he made one, he was often so far out of position that it led to a 15 yard run or a 70 yard pass. :rant:

That said, I do think the kid is going to be a good one. BB doesn't often talk about rookies the way he did Spikes, and everything I read about him at Miami indicated he'll do everything he can to learn his duties. TJ wasn't exactly a speed demon either, so I could see Brandon taking that role.
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I thought Brandon looked pretty good against Pitt and NYJ. Since he didn't play a whole lot against either Indy or Det because NE was in nickle for something like 80% of both games, I felt like he was progressing at the perfect time.

He is a slow, which is problematic for a rookie because he doesn't have the ability to make up for a mental mistake. So when he made one, he was often so far out of position that it led to a 15 yard run or a 70 yard pass. :rant:

That said, I do think the kid is going to be a good one. BB doesn't often talk about rookies the way he did Spikes, and everything I read about him at Miami indicated he'll do everything he can to learn his duties. TJ wasn't exactly a speed demon either, so I could see Brandon taking that role.
Ted played smart and tough though. I mentioned Steve Nelson.
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Ted played smart and tough though. I mentioned Steve Nelson.
Precisely. I don't see why Spikes can't do the same thing.
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Some upcoming prospects from the Oklahoma Sooners:

http://nflmocks.com/2011/05/04/oklah...12-and-beyond/
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ESPN's Steve Muench looks at some offensive prospects for 2012:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/blog?...aft&id=6478353
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Chad Reuter lists his top defensive prospects for 2012:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/s...alabama-loaded

For some reason he lists the kickers and punters under the "Defensive Ends" category.
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A very early top 100 for 2012 from Mocking the draft:

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/...p-100-rankings

Some names of interest:

2. Quentin Coples, DE, North Carolina. 6'6" 272#
20. Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M. 6'3" 215#
23. Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama. 6'2" 253#
24. Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama. 6'4" 258#
30. Kenny Tate, FS, Maryland. 6'4" 220#
34. Mike Brewster, OC, Ohio St. 6'5" 295#
41. Andre Branch, DE, Clemson. 6'5" 260#
44. Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina. 6'6" 250#
49. Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas. 6'3" 217#
71. Chris Owusu, WR, Stanford. 6'2" 200#
81. Chris Polk, RB, Washington. 5'11" 215#
86. Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers, 6'2" 218#

Give me 30, 34, 41/44 and 71/86, and it will be a very good draft. And there's quite a few top prospects not included in this list (David DeCastro, Peter Konz, Ben Jones, Shayne Skov and Vinny Curry, for example).

I'm actually guessing that there will be enough depth in 2012 that the Pats could trade out of the 1st round entirely and have 4 2nd round picks like they did in 2009 and fill their major needs with quality players.
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