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Old 09-23-2012, 10:57 PM   #1
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Brady and Belichick are no longer elite.

Sorry gang but it is the truth.

Those two guys used to win games for us because they were better at their craft than their opponents. It's no longer the case anymore.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:57 PM   #2
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:59 PM   #3
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Go away bandwagon.
F' you. Been a Pats fan since Hannah and Grogs.
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Been a Pats fan since Hannah and Grogs.
No way. If you go over the edge because the Pats lost a one-point game against the Ravens in Baltimore, there is no way you could have been a fan in the 90's. My guess is you were a fan starting after the first superbowl, and stopped after 2007.

There are so many friggin bandwagon fans who go beserk every time the Pats don't go 16-0, it would be worth a losing season just to get rid of them.

Teams lose games. Every year, every team. Sometimes they lost to teams they were supposed to beat. Get over it.
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:06 PM   #5
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No way. If you go over the edge because the Pats lost a one-point game against the Ravens in Baltimore, there is no way you could have been a fan in the 90's. My guess is you were a fan starting after the first superbowl, and stopped after 2007.

There are so many friggin bandwagon fans who go beserk every time the Pats don't go 16-0, it would be worth a losing season just to get rid of them.

Teams lose games. Every year, every team. Sometimes they lost to teams they were supposed to beat. Get over it.
Good thing you don't earn a living do analysis work.

I'm not going berserk because the Pats lost. I'm simply stating my opinion that, of late, when it comes to the big game, against an elite opponent, neither Brady nor BB have performed as elite.
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:36 PM   #6
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Good thing you don't earn a living do analysis work.

I'm not going berserk because the Pats lost. I'm simply stating my opinion that, of late, when it comes to the big game, against an elite opponent, neither Brady nor BB have performed as elite.
I am not sure you know what Elite is....Elite does not always mean winning the superbowl....because guess what...nobody has won has much as these two people you are calling not elite...AS of now, those two are the only reason this is not a 8-8 rebuilding team like most teams are after they rebuild their entire defense. So not sure you know what elite is. So who is elite?
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:59 PM   #7
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So it's gonna be this kinda week huh?
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So it's gonna be this kinda week huh?
you ain't helping bumping up the replacement officials bitch thread.....:lame:
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:00 PM   #9
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Sorry gang but it is the truth.

Those two guys used to win games for us because they were better at their craft than their opponents. It's no longer the case anymore.
Honestly, there might be some merit to your argument, or at least some grounds for making that case.

But choosing to do so after THIS game is pretty
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Honestly, there might be some merit to your argument, or at least some grounds for making that case.

But choosing to do so after THIS game is pretty
Why so?

Yeah we are all pissed but it's the truth.

This team used to win games because of superior QB play on offense and because of BB outcoaching the other team on defense. This doesn't happen much anymore!
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Yep obviously it was Brady and BB that cost us the game tonight. lol...who could not see this.
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This doesn't happen much anymore!


Uh, could that be because we're only 3 games into the season? Or are you saying last season they weren't winning games by Brady's superior play and BB's coaching?
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Why so?

Yeah we are all pissed but it's the truth.

This team used to win games because of superior QB play on offense and because of BB outcoaching the other team on defense. This doesn't happen much anymore!
I've made this argument over the past year and I can't discount the argument.

However, the Ravens were basically given a free pass on TWO touchdown drives in this game. Brady was pretty solid.

The D got ****ed by the refs, but failed when it mattered most, which has happened too many times in recent years.

But like I said, this argument should have been made last week when the team lost to an INFERIOR opponent. Baltimore is a stud team, top 1-3 in the AFC, and received major help from the refs. Your argument MAY have merit, but a 1-point loss in THIS game isn't grounds for making it IMO.
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I've made this argument over the past year and I can't discount the argument.

However, the Ravens were basically given a free pass on TWO touchdown drives in this game. Brady was pretty solid.

The D got ****ed by the refs, but failed when it mattered most, which has happened too many times in recent years.

But like I said, this argument should have been made last week when the team lost to an INFERIOR opponent. Baltimore is a stud team, top 1-3 in the AFC, and received major help from the refs. Your argument MAY have merit, but a 1-point loss in THIS game isn't grounds for making it IMO.


You mean the 3-0 Cards? Saying Brady and BB cost us this game has zero merit for an argument.
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You mean the 3-0 Cards? Saying Brady and BB cost us this game has zero merit for an argument.
I didn't say they cost us that game. I meant that losing to the Cards is worthy of a reexamination of the capabilities of this team, including BB/TB.

Losing that cluster**** of agamethatlookedlikefootballbutwasntfootball is one you basically just have to throw away. The D sucked it up as usual and still can't stop a 2-minute drive to save its life, but without those TWO FREE TD drives the game wouldn't have been close anyway.
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