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Old 04-01-2020, 08:45 AM   #751
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The above are my posts in the past 24 hours. "Worship at feet of a narcissistic pathological liar" is an insult? It's an observation. How am I not correct about the Trump worship? It is documented fact that he's a pathological liar. It is absolutely true that there are at least a handful of hard core Trump supporters who hurl insults towards those who do not support him on a regular basis, if not directly, as a group for sure. And yet, when some of us finally get tired of it and respond with measured replies, you want to accuse me of the same behavior? Believe me, I stopped myself many times in the past from going nuclear on this place. I take my role here very seriously, many times at the expense of my own opinions. You see it as bailing, I see it as preserving my sanity and going back to the role I signed up for.

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I notice you have zero response in the outright lies listed earlier. Trumps lies if you categorize it as that seem to me to be exaggerations. Embellishments. Obama and Bidenís lies are outright felonious. FISA abuse of an American citizen? Quid Pro Joes hand in the cookie jar in 2 continents? Having a national government employee fired to protect his son? Things arenít even remotely similar.
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It used to be much more even in here. Not anymore.

To be fair, a lot of lefties here were riding the Russian collusion train pretty hard, and thought that Mueller was the answer to Trump.
When that failed in spectacular fashion, many lefties left.


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Yeah, this nails it....except that I would change "many lefties", to "almost all the lefties".

It was a mass exodus and very sudden.
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Something else I am noticing more and more of...

Politicians going way out of there way to insure that nobody has any fun....from poisoning water holes with dye to issuing edicts that people can't use their own goddamn grills and BBQ's.

These are the signs of those in power feeling flush with the use of it, and want more and more.

And one more thing...this loser mayor of Lawrence, is it....he called for the National Guard to fucking hand out FLYERS?!?!/ What the fuck? These National Guard folk have families, and jobs, too, you know.

The National Guard is for Emergencies, not to hand out fucking flyers! YOU LOSERS!
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Something else I am noticing more and more of...

Politicians going way out of there way to insure that nobody has any fun....from poisoning water holes with dye to issuing edicts that people can't use their own goddamn grills and BBQ's.

These are the signs of those in power feeling flush with the use of it, and want more and more.

And one more thing...this loser mayor of Lawrence, is it....he called for the National Guard to fucking hand out FLYERS?!?!/ What the fuck? These National Guard folk have families, and jobs, too, you know.

The National Guard is for Emergencies, not to hand out fucking flyers! YOU LOSERS!
Insanity.

Whoís calling for a ban on grilling? Provided itís in your backyard how could they possibly stop you?

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Yeah, this nails it....except that I would change "many lefties", to "almost all the lefties".

It was a mass exodus and very sudden.
Iíd challenge any one of them to provide any positive for their side.

Every story thatís broke has disclose yet another layer of their perverse criminal recent history going back to first term Barry.
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Insanity.

Whoís calling for a ban on grilling? Provided itís in your backyard how could they possibly stop you?[COLOR="Silver"]
Several politicians...even Marty Walsh mentioned it this weekend I think...something about "just because it's a nice day out doesn't mean you should be having cook outs" or something to that effect.

Some Rhode Island pol said something similar, no outdoor cooking because people don't obey the social distancing rules and some bullshit like that.

They are feeling their oats, nothing more.
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Not for nothing, but linking WaPo as the arbiter of truth isn't going to go terribly far.



In fact...I would say that virtually none of the mainstream media qualifies any more, they are essentially a blend of propaganda and advertising.



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So you are the CLAIMED Republican that is a teacher and sticking up for the Washington Post?

The chips are REALLY starting to add up on the other side of the table.
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But RT is olí trustworthy.
RT might be the closest thing to "Free Press" remaining in this country. Neither party controls them.

On top of that, RT still does journalism. Real, investigative journalism. None of the mainstream news networks have done that for years. Most of them don't even employ investigative journalists on staff any more, let alone have overseas staff who can pursue stories overseas.
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Several politicians...even Marty Walsh mentioned it this weekend I think...something about "just because it's a nice day out doesn't mean you should be having cook outs" or something to that effect.

Some Rhode Island pol said something similar, no outdoor cooking because people don't obey the social distancing rules and some bullshit like that.

They are feeling their oats, nothing more.
Asinine!

Itís ok for the public to be outside taking walks(passing on the sidewalks inches away - not 6 feet) but detrimental to be in ones backyard grilling a porterhouse?

And I donít know about most here but Iíd venture to guess their backyard has more square footage than the dining room or kitchenette. Following 6 foot guidelines youíd need a dining table approximately 16 feet long for a family of 5.
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RT might be the closest thing to "Free Press" remaining in this country. Neither party controls them.

On top of that, RT still does journalism. Real, investigative journalism. None of the mainstream news networks have done that for years. Most of them don't even employ investigative journalists on staff any more, let alone have overseas staff who can pursue stories overseas.
In order to have an investigative journalist you have to be willing to hear the story, not write it.
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Asinine!

It’s ok for the public to be outside taking walks(passing on the sidewalks inches away - not 6 feet) but detrimental to be in ones backyard grilling a porterhouse?

And I don’t know about most here but I’d venture to guess their backyard has more square footage than the dining room or kitchenette. Following 6 foot guidelines you’d need a dining table approximately 16 feet long for a family of 5.
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Yeah, but we are moving from "It's about public safety" territory to "It's about public control in the name of safety" territory.

You know how abused women always seem to find another abuser just like the one they left? They sort of have a knack for finding them, and abusers have a knack for finding those prone to be abused?

That's us. We are just quietly taking the abuse, taking orders, asking no questions, being compliant and obedient.

What that kind of behavior does is trigger abusive partners to become abusive. It's not enough to have a compliant partner, it's about the thrill of domination and demonstrating your power is absolute, and no level of obedience or compliance can stop that phase of the relationship.

That's where we are. We are being compliant, obedient, and taking orders.

The next stage of our relationship with our government will be taking the abuse. The whole point is to force someone to do something they don't want to do, or deny them the right to do something they do want to do. THAT'S when abusers feel strong. Not when the abused is willingly complying. There's no rush in that, no orgasm of power.

Of course...maybe I'm totally wrong and our benevolent, loving, nurturing government will not take advantage of our complacency and helplessness.

We will see, won't we?
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Not for nothing, but linking WaPo as the arbiter of truth isn't going to go terribly far.

In fact...I would say that virtually none of the mainstream media qualifies any more, they are essentially a blend of propaganda and advertising.

"Breaking Newz! For two weeks, Dunkin's is offering their coffee in an eco friendly chocolate bunny mug! Now here's Shiela with details... "
When Trump said "I'm sending Rudy Guiliani there to work with you. He's a good man" etc to the President of Ukraine and then 2 weeks later tells Bill O'Reilly, "I don't know WHY Rudy went to Ukraine, I didn't send him", I don't care if Satan reports it. A proven lie is a proven lie.

Stop blaming the messenger because Trump is a lying piece of shit who doesn't know what being honest means.

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The above are my posts in the past 24 hours. "Worship at feet of a narcissistic pathological liar" is an insult? It's an observation. How am I not correct about the Trump worship? It is documented fact that he's a pathological liar. It is absolutely true that there are at least a handful of hard core Trump supporters who hurl insults towards those who do not support him on a regular basis, if not directly, as a group for sure. And yet, when some of us finally get tired of it and respond with measured replies, you want to accuse me of the same behavior? Believe me, I stopped myself many times in the past from going nuclear on this place. I take my role here very seriously, many times at the expense of my own opinions. You see it as bailing, I see it as preserving my sanity and going back to the role I signed up for.

Believe what you want of me. I have nothing to apologize for.
Seriously, name one other Presiden that has ever had this type of adoration by so many people in the modern era of this country? In any era for that matter AND is surrounded by so much corruption, has lied so many times and has had so many staff members and associates imprisoned, if not at least indicted. You can't because there hjasn't ever been anything like this.

Kennedy was adored but Kennedy was inspirational. Kennedy had his faults, but Kennedy was a military commander and as President inspired a nation to reach beyond itself and strive to attempt the previously impossible.

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Here's a random thought;

If our Intelligence Agencies were worth even 2 cents, it wouldn't matter if China lied, they would have known all about this virus way back in December and would have saved a lot of lives and a whole Hell of a lot of economic destruction.

If they aren't able to pick up on something like this in Wuhan and get some actual information out instead of waiting for Chinese fucking press releases, then they are no fucking good for anything.

The Wuhan virus is a prime example of why we create intelligence agencies!

Maybe if they weren't so politically corrupt, they may have shown some rudimentary level of competence and gotten some actionable intelligence back in December, or at the latest early January.

These are the same folks who sold us on Weapons of Mass Destruction and Russiagate.

And yet....when it comes to a real threat to national security....where the fuck were they?

Nowhere.

It is time to wipe the board clean and start over with every one of these agencies, starting with the Federal Bullshit Institution, and moving onto the Clowns In America afterward.

They are too busy creating fake dangers, and completely blind and incompetent in regards to real dangers.
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Something else I am noticing more and more of...

Politicians going way out of there way to insure that nobody has any fun....from poisoning water holes with dye to issuing edicts that people can't use their own goddamn grills and BBQ's.

These are the signs of those in power feeling flush with the use of it, and want more and more.

And one more thing...this loser mayor of Lawrence, is it....he called for the National Guard to fucking hand out FLYERS?!?!/ What the fuck? These National Guard folk have families, and jobs, too, you know.

The National Guard is for Emergencies, not to hand out fucking flyers! YOU LOSERS!
Seriously??? Doesn't Lawrence, MA have WAY more problems than flyers?? I haven't been there since the mid-'90s but I remember it being more or less a dead town

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I just look at new bill that was passed. So people will be making more money to stay at home . Then I make to show up to work. Bernie Sanders promise has finally come true .
Laid-off workers have reported waiting on the phone for hours and websites crashing, leaving them unable to apply. Those who do successfully file are waiting for the additional $600 a week in jobless payments, approved by Congress and President Trump last week.
I'd like to know on what planet an extra $600 a week - MORE than max unemployment in most areas is a reasonable idea?

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Yeah, but we are moving from "It's about public safety" territory to "It's about public control in the name of safety" territory.

You know how abused women always seem to find another abuser just like the one they left? They sort of have a knack for finding them, and abusers have a knack for finding those prone to be abused?

That's us. We are just quietly taking the abuse, taking orders, asking no questions, being compliant and obedient.

What that kind of behavior does is trigger abusive partners to become abusive. It's not enough to have a compliant partner, it's about the thrill of domination and demonstrating your power is absolute, and no level of obedience or compliance can stop that phase of the relationship.

That's where we are. We are being compliant, obedient, and taking orders.

The next stage of our relationship with our government will be taking the abuse. The whole point is to force someone to do something they don't want to do, or deny them the right to do something they do want to do. THAT'S when abusers feel strong. Not when the abused is willingly complying. There's no rush in that, no orgasm of power.

Of course...maybe I'm totally wrong and our benevolent, loving, nurturing government will not take advantage of our complacency and helplessness.

We will see, won't we?
No, you're not wrong. The case studies being conducted here in assuming more control over the free movements of the people are on a scale that previously couldn't even be imagined.
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When Trump said "I'm sending Rudy Guiliani there to work with you. He's a good man" etc to the President of Ukraine and then 2 weeks later tells Bill O'Reilly, "I don't know WHY Rudy went to Ukraine, I didn't send him", I don't care if Satan reports it. A proven lie is a proven lie.

Stop blaming the messenger because Trump is a lying piece of shit who doesn't know what being honest means.

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Seriously, name one other Presiden that has ever had this type of adoration by so many people in the modern era of this country? In any era for that matter AND is surrounded by so much corruption, has lied so many times and has had so many staff members and associates imprisoned, if not at least indicted. You can't because there hjasn't ever been anything like this.

Kennedy was adored but Kennedy was inspirational. Kennedy had his faults, but Kennedy was a military commander and as President inspired a nation to reach beyond itself and strive to attempt the previously impossible.
These are the types of ďliesĒ the never-Trumpers and the left cling to. But who does it effect, really? Nobody. The president can send anyone he wants anywhere he wants to engage in talks. He, along with the Ukraine president, justly, had an uneasy feeling with the diplomat in place. Sheís part of the old regime. His biggest mistake was not taking a much broader brush in cleaning house, like most do. People in charge of enacting your policy should be on your team.

None of you talk of the outright lies the whole past administration knew of and was complicit in. Lies to one of the highest courts in the land to engage in espionage and the complete abandonment of the right to privacy most definitely hurts. It hurts to the very core of the Constitution.

Stop equating or even emphasizing fibs or embellishments to pump ones own sails with catastrophic lies that destroy the fabric of our fundamental rights.
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