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Old 03-27-2020, 05:33 AM   #601
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I have said plenty of positive things about Obama and plenty of negative things about Trump.

Regardless, Obama's policies handcuffed the economy while Trump's policies unleashed it. Any deviation from that general sentiment is an inaccurate repainting of recent history's canvas.


I am "enamored" with no politician. By-and-large, I hate them all.

I do care far more about policies than personality. I care almost nothing about how a politician makes me feel because that has absolutely zero bearing on my life. Policies, however, are quite a different story.

So while many refuse to vote for Trump because the left has made their resistance to him almost entirely about personality, I look at the effect of the policies he has put into place. Some I disagree with; others I do not. So far the good has outweighed the bad.

And here I thought I was a fairly reasonable man, only to find out how irrational and illogical I am. What a shitty day.
I admit that his personality is a big part of why I hate him; I abhor a liar more than anything. You have to be completely gutless to lie so frivolously. At least a thief has balls enough to steal from someone. But what policies?

What policies has he brought on that had any effect on the economy other than false promises that caused enough speculative optimism for people to invest and it's only the stock market that spied and only about half the country has any play in the stock market - so that increase is targetted to half the country.

His tax program only benefitted a fraction of the people in this country. In my case and people like me who travel a lot for work, he took away all the deductions we used to file - like per diem, expenses, et al - which were far greater than the new standard deduction and people who get paid like I do didn't get more back weekly.

Tariffs are crushing farmers the Midwest - whom I work with daily and have this conversation with.

Unemployment didn't plunge. Job creation didn't spike. The GDP didn't make a huge leap. So, where is this "unleashing of the economy?"

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To this particular bill? No, but in response to your blanket statement trying to make it seem like only Democrats add extra bullshit spending to bills? Yes, which is why I said it
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Honestly, if you abhor liars, you should get out of the politics business, because you have no business even remotely liking any of them.

I don't think you abhor liars. I think you are a fan of plenty of liars.

I don't think your stance has anything whatsoever to do with truth.
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Over the course of the day, as you hear everyone criticizing Thomas Massie, remember this....

[B][I]These fucking politicians are pissed that they have to RETURN to Washington and show up for work! WHY AREN"T THEY ALREADY FUCKING THERE DOING THEIR FUCKING JOB AS SO CALLED "LEADERS"??? Thomas Massie is there! He is actually doing his damn job!! WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE REST OF YOU? DOING FUCKING NOTHING NOT EVEN SHOWING UP FOR WORK.
The fact that these asshats aren't even on hte job shows you how much they actually care! PRETENTIOUS FUCKS!
Oh, and please...CRY TO ME ABOUT HOW YOU ARE RISKING YOUR LIVES BY GOING TO WORK AND MAYBE GETTING THE VIRUS! Where is your bravery, and your Patriotism, and your flag waving bullshit now? It's always there WHEN YOU SEND OTHER AMERICANS TO DIE, and you fucking cheer, and talk about bravery and doing the job that needs to be done....and now, LOOK AT YOU! Not even ON THE JOB when the THE JOB GETS TOUGH...you fucking run home while Americans are wondering if they can feed their kids next week! LOOK AT YOU crying about how if you are in Washington you MIGHT GET THE VIRUS! You bunch of asshats and whipped snowflakes!
GET YOUR ASS TO WASHINGTON, DO YOUR FUCKING JOB, AND STOP WHINING ABOUT RISKING YOURSELVES, BECAUSE YOU SEND AMERICANS TO DIE EVERY SESSION!!!


These hypocritical self righteous fucks should have been locked down in the Capitol Building until they did their fucking job in the first place...

...and they can't even get a quorum on the largest spending bill in the history of the world, a bill where, as I understand it, they are giving themselves $57K raises, and they AREN'T EVEN THERE??!?

I'm behind you 100% Thomas Massie! Yes, you will be criticized and excoriated by both the left and the cretins on the right.

This will separate the Conservatives from the RINOS. Let's see where the pieces fall.

If you're not behind Thomas Massie on this, you're not actually a conservative. You're a neocon, which is basically a democrat pretending to be a conservative.
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I admit that his personality is a big part of why I hate him; I abhor a liar more than anything. You have to be completely gutless to lie so frivolously. At least a thief has balls enough to steal from someone. But what policies?

What policies has he brought on that had any effect on the economy other than false promises that caused enough speculative optimism for people to invest and it's only the stock market that spied and only about half the country has any play in the stock market - so that increase is targetted to half the country.

His tax program only benefitted a fraction of the people in this country. In my case and people like me who travel a lot for work, he took away all the deductions we used to file - like per diem, expenses, et al - which were far greater than the new standard deduction and people who get paid like I do didn't get more back weekly.

Tariffs are crushing farmers the Midwest - whom I work with daily and have this conversation with.

Unemployment didn't plunge. Job creation didn't spike. The GDP didn't make a huge leap. So, where is this "unleashing of the economy?"

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To this particular bill? No, but in response to your blanket statement trying to make it seem like only Democrats add extra bullshit spending to bills? Yes, which is why I said it
Is it possible for your to set your blind hatred aside for at least a day? Where did I say only Democrats put needless shit in these bills? You make it very difficult to have a conversation when you act like a dick.

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Honestly, if you abhor liars, you should get out of the politics business, because you have no business even remotely liking any of them.

I don't think you abhor liars. I think you are a fan of plenty of liars.

I don't think your stance has anything whatsoever to do with truth.
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I don't think you abhor liars. I think you are a fan of plenty of liars.

I don't think your stance has anything whatsoever to do with truth.
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Over the course of the day, as you hear everyone criticizing Thomas Massie, remember this....

[B][I]These fucking politicians are pissed that they have to RETURN to Washington and show up for work! WHY AREN"T THEY ALREADY FUCKING THERE DOING THEIR FUCKING JOB AS SO CALLED "LEADERS"??? Thomas Massie is there! He is actually doing his damn job!! WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE REST OF YOU? DOING FUCKING NOTHING NOT EVEN SHOWING UP FOR WORK.
The fact that these asshats aren't even on hte job shows you how much they actually care! PRETENTIOUS FUCKS!
Oh, and please...CRY TO ME ABOUT HOW YOU ARE RISKING YOUR LIVES BY GOING TO WORK AND MAYBE GETTING THE VIRUS! Where is your bravery, and your Patriotism, and your flag waving bullshit now? It's always there WHEN YOU SEND OTHER AMERICANS TO DIE, and you fucking cheer, and talk about bravery and doing the job that needs to be done....and now, LOOK AT YOU! Not even ON THE JOB when the THE JOB GETS TOUGH...you fucking run home while Americans are wondering if they can feed their kids next week! LOOK AT YOU crying about how if you are in Washington you MIGHT GET THE VIRUS! You bunch of asshats and whipped snowflakes!
GET YOUR ASS TO WASHINGTON, DO YOUR FUCKING JOB, AND STOP WHINING ABOUT RISKING YOURSELVES, BECAUSE YOU SEND AMERICANS TO DIE EVERY SESSION!!!


These hypocritical self righteous fucks should have been locked down in the Capitol Building until they did their fucking job in the first place...

...and they can't even get a quorum on the largest spending bill in the history of the world, a bill where, as I understand it, they are giving themselves $57K raises, and they AREN'T EVEN THERE??!?

I'm behind you 100% Thomas Massie! Yes, you will be criticized and excoriated by both the left and the cretins on the right.

This will separate the Conservatives from the RINOS. Let's see where the pieces fall.

If you're not behind Thomas Massie on this, you're not actually a conservative. You're a neocon, which is basically a democrat pretending to be a conservative.
Both the House and Senate should be in the Capital on lock down through the duration of this crisis.

Pelosi away on vacation last week! Are you fvcking kidding me?!?!
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Both the House and Senate should be in the Capital on lock down through the duration of this crisis.

Pelosi away on vacation last week! Are you fvcking kidding me?!?!
If she catches the virus she will survive, all the liquor in her system with kill it on contact. lol
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Polls, I stopped believing them in November of 2016.
But...but...but....Nate Silverman!

He's always right!

He predicts odds so that he will never be wrong! 90% Joe Biden wins doesn't make him wrong when Joe Biden loses, see?

It's amazing...the dude is sooooooo accurate!

EDIT: Is it Silver?...whatever his name is.
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Polls, I stopped believing them in November of 2016.
They are so dated , no?

I mean CNN puts out a poll on Trumps approval rating. How many Trump supporters would be in that audience or demo?

Yet they’ll cling to it like gospel.



You need to look no further than these pre-Corona town halls vs Trump rallys. Dem candidates struggle to fill a Wendy’s. Trumps filling stadiums, with tens of thousands lined up outside with no hope of getting in.

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Honestly, if you abhor liars, you should get out of the politics business, because you have no business even remotely liking any of them.

I don't think you abhor liars. I think you are a fan of plenty of liars.

I don't think your stance has anything whatsoever to do with truth.
when it comes to politics, there is a certain threshold of lying that is somewhat tolerable. "I'm going to lower taxes and bring jobs back" but then once elected that doesn't happen. That's a tolerable, even expected lie.

Over 15,000 lies in 3 years is not tolerable. Lies like "I don't even know what this Wikileaks is..." that he mentioned 147 times when he was campaigning. "I'm going to send Rudy Guiliani over there. He's a good man. He was the mayor of NY..." and so on. Tw weeks later "I don't know why Rudy went to Ukraine. I didn't send him."
"It's not going to be a pandemic" to "I knew it was pandemic".

Those blatant, consistent, pathological level of lying is not not and should not be tolerable.

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Seems like a lot of Trump supporters are turning into Socialists over this virus all of a sudden....

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Is it possible for your to set your blind hatred aside for at least a day? Where did I say only Democrats put needless shit in these bills? You make it very difficult to have a conversation when you act like a dick.
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