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Old 03-25-2020, 04:03 PM   #586
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Knowing the answer to my question, will make a big difference regarding the significance of your #2.

If the treatment was limited to only the young with no other health conditions, then no, it doesn't really say much about their belief in its efficacy.
Then why would physicians prescribe such treatment?

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NO, what true is everything Trump has tried to take credit for start coming up as far back as 2011. I already posted the Dow Jones gains. Unemployment was falling. GDP was better under Obama, as was the rate of wage increases.
Data proving you absolutely incorrect aside, what was the "magic wand" Obama spoke of that Trump was magically able to wield?
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It's a bi-Partisan bill, for fuck's sake.
The bill that was voted down last weekend was a bipartisan bill. Even Schumer was singing it's praises until Nancy showed up, and then all of a sudden the bill that Schumer helped craft in negotiations while Nancy was on vacation was blocked.

That was pure Nancy.

She's still trying to figure out how to claim credit for this, that's why I have my doubts about this one they are talking about now surviving the house. The socialists want their Green New D4eal in it, and Nancy wants credit for it.

With luck, she will realize that she should have been involved in last week's bill to get credit instead of going on vacation and then coming back to nuke all the work the senate and White House had accomplished for her personal edification.

Nancy is a very sharp politician, so she must know she missed her chance, but she's also out of touch and nihilistic, so we'll see which part of her prevails, her brains or her ego.
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Nah...if you get more than a 5 second answer out of Belichick, you're doing well. Not counting snorts and throat clearing.
Thats the bulk of them sure. But he can go on and on at times divulging absolutely zero.

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The bill that was voted down last weekend was a bipartisan bill. Even Schumer was singing it's praises until Nancy showed up, and then all of a sudden the bill that Schumer helped craft in negotiations while Nancy was on vacation was blocked.

That was pure Nancy.

She's still trying to figure out how to claim credit for this, that's why I have my doubts about this one they are talking about now surviving the house. The socialists want their Green New D4eal in it, and Nancy wants credit for it.

With luck, she will realize that she should have been involved in last week's bill to get credit instead of going on vacation and then coming back to nuke all the work the senate and White House had accomplished for her personal edification.

Nancy is a very sharp politician, so she must know she missed her chance, but she's also out of touch and nihilistic, so we'll see which part of her prevails, her brains or her ego.
Went on vacation?

Last week?

Leadership!

And she does nothing on her own now. The Squad steers her.
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This bill as it's written isn't going to pass.

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The concern from Sens. Graham, Tim Scott, R-S.C., Ben Sasse, R-Neb., and Rick Scott, R-Fla., is that the current version could pay workers more in unemployment benefits than they're currently making, by sticking a $600 per week payment on top of ordinary benefits that are calculated as a percentage of income. This could disrupt the labor market further, the lawmakers warn.
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Then why would physicians prescribe such treatment?

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Data proving you absolutely incorrect aside, what was the "magic wand" Obama spoke of that Trump was magically able to wield?
That data please?


Nevermind, I'll do it.
Unemployment


GDP


Wages


[url=https://news.yahoo.com/us-job-creation-slows-december-wage-gains-cool-142915235.html]US job creation in 2019 slowest in 8 years

America's solid job creation continued in December but gains in for 2019 were the lowest in eight years, according to the closely-watched government report released Friday.

After a decade of rising employment, hiring last year slowed notably from the brisk pace seen in 2018: With 2.1 million jobs created, that made 2019 the weakest year since 2011, according to the Labor Department data.

The economy added an average of 175,000 new positions a month last year, a sharp drop from the 225,000 monthly average in the prior year.

The decline -- which is not unusual after such a long stretch of brisk hiring -- still could tarnish President Donald Trump's economic record as he battles to win re-election in November.

In the final month of the year, the US jobs engine added another 145,000 new positions, the slowest pace in seven months and a bit short of economists' expectations.

The unemployment rate held steady at 3.5 percent, remaining at a 50-year low, according to the report.

The ailing manufacturing sector, driven into recession by Trump's multi-front trade wars and a sluggish global economy, shed workers for third time in 2019.

But retailers, hotels, bars, restaurants, education, construction and health care led hiring last month, showing the resilience of America's dominant service sector.

Worker pay was a disappointment, rising only 2.9 percent compared to December 2018 -- the first time that measure has fallen below three percent since July 2018.


Also -

In President Trumpís first 20 months in office, the U.S. has seen 3.8 million jobs added, a 482,000 difference to Obamaís 4.3 million jobs added in the same time frame. - https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjo.../#11feb20827ce



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The bill that was voted down last weekend was a bipartisan bill. Even Schumer was singing it's praises until Nancy showed up, and then all of a sudden the bill that Schumer helped craft in negotiations while Nancy was on vacation was blocked.
The bill that the Senate is hashing out, the only bill there is, is a bi-partisan bill. This isn't something just the Republicans are doing. It's both sides working on it

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That data please?
You do agree that it is very easy to go upwards from the absolute bottom of a recession? Unemployment and GDP have nowhere to go, but up.

Moving from 10% unemployment to 5% unemployment happens naturally. As Obama found out (and admitted he didn't know how to do), is that it isn't easy to go from 5% unemployment to 3.5% unemployment.

Agreed?
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The bill that was voted down last weekend was a bipartisan bill. Even Schumer was singing it's praises until Nancy showed up, and then all of a sudden the bill that Schumer helped craft in negotiations while Nancy was on vacation was blocked.
The bill that the Senate is hashing out, the only bill there is, is a bi-partisan bill. This isn't something just the Republicans are doing. It's both sides working on it
By design.

Now the lefties can’t come back and skewer him for the debt increase.
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Why do Democrats have to include needless pork in a bill meant to help Americans in a crisis? They do this every single time.

I wonder what kind of pork, if any, the Republicans have included in it?
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You do agree that it is very easy to go upwards from the absolute bottom of a recession? Unemployment and GDP have nowhere to go, but up.

Moving from 10% unemployment to 5% unemployment happens naturally. As Obama found out (and admitted he didn't know how to do), is that it isn't easy to go from 5% unemployment to 3.5% unemployment.

Agreed?
I admit that's true in a short period of time, not 60 sustained months. It's just impossible, isn't it, to 1, say anything negative about Trump and 2, say anything positive about Obama - and trust me, I have plenty that's negative to say about Obama.

I don't understand how you Trump people don't see how irrational and illogical that is. That alone should queue you people in on how you've become enamored in a cult-like way with Trump

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Why do Democrats have to include needless pork in a bill meant to help Americans in a crisis? They do this every single time.

I wonder what kind of pork, if any, the Republicans have included in it?
Yeah because Republicans never try to add extra spending to bills, ever....
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I admit that's true in a short period of time, not 60 sustained months. It's just impossible, isn't it, to 1, say anything negative about Trump and 2, say anything positive about Obama - and trust me, I have plenty that's negative to say about Obama.

I don't understand how you Trump people don't see how irrational and illogical that is. That alone should queue you people in on how you've become enamored in a cult-like way with Trump

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Yeah because Republicans never try to add extra spending to bills, ever....
Iím a Trump supporter. And I did quote something positive for Barry:

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31% isnít chump change. Tip of the cap. Nice job.

Just donít be pissed because Orange Man Bad vaulted it 56%.


And do something positive. Point out the specific pork the Republicans had to haggle over the past few days in order to get this passed.
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I admit that's true in a short period of time, not 60 sustained months. It's just impossible, isn't it, to 1, say anything negative about Trump and 2, say anything positive about Obama - and trust me, I have plenty that's negative to say about Obama.


I have said plenty of positive things about Obama and plenty of negative things about Trump.

Regardless, Obama's policies handcuffed the economy while Trump's policies unleashed it. Any deviation from that general sentiment is an inaccurate repainting of recent history's canvas.

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I don't understand how you Trump people don't see how irrational and illogical that is. That alone should queue you people in on how you've become enamored in a cult-like way with Trump.
I am "enamored" with no politician. By-and-large, I hate them all.

I do care far more about policies than personality. I care almost nothing about how a politician makes me feel because that has absolutely zero bearing on my life. Policies, however, are quite a different story.

So while many refuse to vote for Trump because the left has made their resistance to him almost entirely about personality, I look at the effect of the policies he has put into place. Some I disagree with; others I do not. So far the good has outweighed the bad.

And here I thought I was a fairly reasonable man, only to find out how irrational and illogical I am. What a shitty day.

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I admit that's true in a short period of time, not 60 sustained months. It's just impossible, isn't it, to 1, say anything negative about Trump and 2, say anything positive about Obama - and trust me, I have plenty that's negative to say about Obama.

I don't understand how you Trump people don't see how irrational and illogical that is. That alone should queue you people in on how you've become enamored in a cult-like way with Trump

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Yeah because Republicans never try to add extra spending to bills, ever....
It's YOUR party, do you know the answer?
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I have said plenty of positive things about Obama and plenty of negative things about Trump.

Regardless, Obama's policies handcuffed the economy while Trump's policies unleashed it. Any deviation from that general sentiment is an inaccurate repainting of recent history's canvas.


I am "enamored" with no politician. By-and-large, I hate them all.

I do care far more about policies than personality. I care almost nothing about how a politician makes me feel because that has absolutely zero bearing on my life. Policies, however, are quite a different story.

So while many refuse to vote for Trump because the left has made their resistance to him almost entirely about personality, I look at the effect of the policies he has put into place. Some I disagree with; others I do not. So far the good has outweighed the bad.

And here I thought I was a fairly reasonable man, only to find out how irrational and illogical I am. What a shitty day.


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Yeah because Republicans never try to add extra spending to bills, ever....
What pork was added by Republicans to this emergency bill?
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Here is the bill, I can't get the document to open but maybe one of you can.

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