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Old 12-12-2019, 12:09 PM   #1
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The end of Vape commerce in Massachusetts

The ban is lifted...sort of, but not really.

75% wholesale Excise tax on all vaping products?

Rhode Island and New Hampshire are going to clean house! No business in MA will be competitive at a 75% tax rate.

And hey...while you're there...why not pick up some cheap alcohol at the same time? AND dodge the sales taxes.

Great idea, Massachusetts.

This is what happens when you give socialist zealots a seat at the legislative table.

...and these morons think their excise tax will generate another $10-$15 Million in revenue.

Sure it will. Doubling the price of anything locally always increases revenue, right?
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Old 12-12-2019, 12:39 PM   #2
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The ban is lifted...sort of, but not really.

75% wholesale Excise tax on all vaping products?

Rhode Island and New Hampshire are going to clean house! No business in MA will be competitive at a 75% tax rate.

And hey...while you're there...why not pick up some cheap alcohol at the same time? AND dodge the sales taxes.

Great idea, Massachusetts.

This is what happens when you give socialist zealots a seat at the legislative table.

...and these morons think their excise tax will generate another $10-$15 Million in revenue.

Sure it will. Doubling the price of anything locally always increases revenue, right?
MA folks are already running to ME for much cheaper legal ganja and such. Good luck with this MA. Idiots.
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Old 12-12-2019, 01:27 PM   #3
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The ban is lifted...sort of, but not really.

75% wholesale Excise tax on all vaping products?

Rhode Island and New Hampshire are going to clean house! No business in MA will be competitive at a 75% tax rate.

And hey...while you're there...why not pick up some cheap alcohol at the same time? AND dodge the sales taxes.

Great idea, Massachusetts.

This is what happens when you give socialist zealots a seat at the legislative table.

...and these morons think their excise tax will generate another $10-$15 Million in revenue.

Sure it will. Doubling the price of anything locally always increases revenue, right?
LOL, fecking ridiculous, but I expect nothing less from the People's Republic of Massachusetts. It's of course better for the time being here in Indiana, but even so they make moves regarding vaping that leave me shaking my head. I was in a local vape shop last week and they were closing out all their juice products in glass bottles due to some kind of new law/rules about safety factors. So I was able to buy quite a few 60 ML bottles for around 4 bucks each. I got 2 Max Jimmy Shurb & Strawberry Astronaut, 2 Pinup Betty Chill, and 2 Cold Fusion Galil.

I have jumped in with both feet TBH. I am tobacco product free now for quite awhile since I made the move to vaping exclusively. Up until a few months ago, I mostly used a couple of older 40W Fuma sub mods with Subomber and Aspire tanks, as well as old E-tron vape pens. These were several years old and while good for their time, performance was meager at best. I've since purchased several newer mods/kits. Smok, Aspire, Uwell and Vaporesso 40-80W Stick/Pen mods, a VooPoo Drag Mini and Micro kits as well as my first high wattage regulated mod and several new tanks. It's become so much safer, cheaper and the performance exponentially better. My only regret is that I didn't fully commit and switch over to new vaping tech sooner.
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I have jumped in with both feet TBH. I am tobacco product free now for quite awhile since I made the move to vaping exclusively.
I was, too, until the ban. Then I went back to smoking to wait it out, but with these new regs, I am looking at alternatives.

Thinking about getting a UPS mailbox in Nashua.
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Old 12-12-2019, 01:41 PM   #5
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MA voters are the idiots.
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Old 12-12-2019, 02:44 PM   #6
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I'm about 15 min north of the Mass. line in SW NH. and we have a Market Basket store in town, I've seen out of stater's ring up 6-7 hundred dollars in ciggs. bill and it occurs regularly. Same thing with alcohol at the state liquor store.
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Old 12-12-2019, 02:49 PM   #7
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I'm about 15 min north of the Mass. line in SW NH. and we have a Market Basket store in town, I've seen out of stater's ring up 6-7 hundred dollars in ciggs. bill and it occurs regularly. Same thing with alcohol at the state liquor store.
I remember growing up in Portland and making road trips to NH regularly to buy booze. Better selections, better prices, no taxes...and as soon as you crossed the Piscataway river bridge there was that massive, super Walmart-size liquor store at the first exit.
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I was, too, until the ban. Then I went back to smoking to wait it out, but with these new regs, I am looking at alternatives.

Thinking about getting a UPS mailbox in Nashua.
I see how a 75% wholesale excise tax would put an undue burden on the local vape shop and cripple many, but can't you as a consumer avoid it by ordering online or does the law also affect online retailers from out of state?
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Online sales have been in the crosshairs of MA for a long time.
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I see how a 75% wholesale excise tax would put an undue burden on the local vape shop and cripple many, but can't you as a consumer avoid it by ordering online or does the law also affect online retailers from out of state?
It affects online.

They also banned flavors.
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It affects online.

They also banned flavors.
Shit I thought the excise tax was a compromise to the flavor ban.

So no flavors, a 75% excise tax AND it applies to online sales from out of state too? So they banned it without banning it...for fuck's sake you guys have a bunch of twiddling twats running your state.
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Shit I thought the excise tax was a compromise to the flavor ban.

So no flavors, a 75% excise tax AND it applies to online sales from out of state too? So they banned it without banning it...for fuck's sake you guys have a bunch of twiddling twats running your state.
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