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Old 09-16-2019, 06:45 PM   #556
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Does anyone really think one of these clowns can beat Trump? This has to be the worst bunch of candidates to have ever run for POTUS in my lifetime.
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well, when your poll numbers are in the toilet go for dramatic effect. And of course the trained seals in the audience roaring their approval have no concept of how this would even be carried out or what the optics of sending men with guns to forcefully confiscate guns would look like.



How did we ever get so fucking stupid as a nation?


Amen. Such pandering is pathetic .
The Dís are starting to lose it early in the race.
Who the hell is going to emerge?


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I've been fighting this since the 90's. Yes, we need to stem the tide of irrationality washing over this country through political work but the real fight and where the changes are made long term are through education.



This is where my fight resides.


I fight the fight every day. I force my students to engage in the Socratic method, and many have opened their eyes a bit.
Parents need to get a bit more logical with their children.


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Amen. Such pandering is pathetic .
The Dís are starting to lose it early in the race.
Who the hell is going to emerge?


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After the first debate it was Tulsi.

Gone.

Second debate seemed a mess but maybe Kamala.

Gone.

Now Beeto. To take away guns.

Good luck with that.
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I wouldn't be so quick to discount Elizabeth Warren. She is co-opting Clinton voters (Clinton, who actually won the presidency) and taking over some historically Bernie-backing groups. Apart from the "Pocahontas" zinger, what does Trump have to outshine her?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eliza...b077dcbd62cf5e
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I wouldn't be so quick to discount Elizabeth Warren. She is co-opting Clinton voters (Clinton, who actually won the presidency) and taking over some historically Bernie-backing groups. Apart from the "Pocahontas" zinger, what does Trump have to outshine her?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eliza...b077dcbd62cf5e
That whole article is practically about addressing corruption.

Has she watched the news?!?!

Her party is a collection of the most corrupt people our political system ever put forth.
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I wouldn't be so quick to discount Elizabeth Warren. She is co-opting Clinton voters (Clinton, who actually won the presidency) and taking over some historically Bernie-backing groups. Apart from the "Pocahontas" zinger, what does Trump have to outshine her?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eliza...b077dcbd62cf5e
Generally speaking, referring to HuffPo for any factual information isnít recommended. They arenít a news organization they are a blog for leftist extremism.

As far as what Trump has to outshine her, oh just a few things
The economy seems ok
Unemployment record lows.
Everyoneís 401K seems to be doing well.
Even the Dems think heís doing the right thing with China.
He has a lot of support with women. Much more than anyone thinks.
He has a weak weak field to compete against. Warren thinks sheís ahead. Thatís her first mistake. There will be more.
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I wouldn't be so quick to discount Elizabeth Warren. She is co-opting Clinton voters (Clinton, who actually won the presidency) and taking over some historically Bernie-backing groups. Apart from the "Pocahontas" zinger, what does Trump have to outshine her?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eliza...b077dcbd62cf5e
The fact she is a progressive and edging close to socialist with her "we'll run the businesses" proposal shes going to get eviscerated like every other progressive.

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Generally speaking, referring to HuffPo for any factual information isnít recommended. They arenít a news organization they are a blog for leftist extremism.

As far as what Trump has to outshine her, oh just a few things
The economy seems ok
Unemployment record lows.
Everyoneís 401K seems to be doing well.
Even the Dems think heís doing the right thing with China.
He has a lot of support with women. Much more than anyone thinks.
He has a weak weak field to compete against. Warren thinks sheís ahead. Thatís her first mistake. There will be more.
I live here.

WTF has she done?!?!

https://www-m.cnn.com/2015/01/09/us/....google.com%2F


Elizabeth Warren Fast Facts

(CNN) ó Here's a look at the life of Democratic US Senator and 2020 presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts.

Personal:
Birth date: June 22, 1949

Birth place: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

Birth name: Elizabeth Ann Herring

Father: Donald Herring, salesman and maintenance man

Mother: Pauline (Reed) Herring, department store worker

Marriages: Bruce Mann (July 12, 1980-present); Jim Warren (1968-1980, divorced)

Children: with Jim Warren: Alex, 1976; Amelia, 1971

Education: Attended George Washington University, 1966-1968; University of Houston, B.S. Speech Pathology and Audiology, 1970; Rutgers University, J.D., 1976

Religion: Methodist

Other Facts:
State high school champion in debate.

Before the mid-1990s, Warren was a registered Republican.

Warren is an expert on bankruptcy law and was an adviser to the National Bankruptcy Review Commission in the 1990s.
Warren has written or cowritten 11 books. Her books include two co-written with her daughter, Amelia Warren Tyagi, "The Two-Income Trap: Why Middle-Class Mothers and Fathers Are Going Broke" and "All Your Worth: The Ultimate Lifetime Money Plan."

According to Congressional disclosure reports, Warren's net worth is between $2.59 million and $8.38 million.
Related Video: Warren apologizes for listing race as 'American Indian' 03:14

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1966-1968 - Warren attends George Washington University on a debate scholarship. She drops out after two years to get married.

Early 1970s - After graduating from college, Warren works as a speech pathologist at a New Jersey elementary school.

1977-1978 - Law lecturer at Rutgers School of Law.

1978-1983 - Assistant, and later associate professor at the University of Houston Law Center.

1983-1987 - Professor of law at the University of Texas Law School in Austin.

1987-1995 - Law professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School.

1992-1993 - Visiting professor at Harvard Law School.

1995-2012 - Professor at Harvard Law School.

2007 - Warren writes an article outlining her idea for a federal agency designed to protect consumers from fraudulent or misleading financial products, like mortgages and credit cards.
November 14, 2008 - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid appoints Warren to a Congressional oversight panel overseeing the $700 billion Troubled Assets Relief Program.
September 17, 2010 - President Barack Obama appoints Warren as assistant to the president and special adviser to the Treasury secretary in order to launch the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
July 2011 - Due to opposition from Republicans and some Democrats, Obama declines to nominate Warren as permanent director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

August 1, 2011 - Warren steps down as a special adviser to Obama.

September 14, 2011 - Warren announces she's running for the US Senate in Massachusetts.

September 5, 2012 - Warren speaks at the Democratic National Convention.
November 6, 2012 - Wins the race for Senate in Massachusetts, defeating incumbent Scott Brown.

April 22, 2014 - Warren's memoir, "A Fighting Chance," is published.

November 13, 2014 - Reid taps Warren to join his leadership team.

December 15, 2014 - In an interview with NPR's Steve Inskeep, Warren repeats four times that she is not running for president in 2016.
June 2, 2015 - Warren writes a scathing letter to Mary Jo White, the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), saying "I am disappointed by the significant gap between the promises you made during and shortly after your confirmation and your performance as SEC Chair." In a statement released in 2013, Warren said that "the SEC needs to be a tough watchdog for the American people."
February 7, 2017 - During a debate on the nomination of Jeff Sessions as US attorney general. Senate Republicans vote to rebuke Warren as she reads a letter that Coretta Scott King wrote in 1986 criticizing Sessions.
April 18, 2017 - Her book "This Fight Is Our Fight" is published.

June 5, 2017 - FCTRY, a Brooklyn-based product design company, starts a Kickstarter campaign to fund the production of Warren action figures, and surpasses its goal within hours. FCTRY says it wants to partner with Emily's List, a non-profit that promotes getting pro-choice, Democratic women elected to office.
November 27, 2017 - At an event honoring Navajo code talkers, President Donald Trump references Warren by the nickname he gave her, Pocahontas. In an interview with MSNBC, Warren remarks, "It is deeply unfortunate that the President of the United States cannot even make it through a ceremony honoring these heroes without having to throw out a racial slur. Donald Trump does this over and over thinking somehow he is going to shut me up with it. It hasn't worked in the past, it isn't going to work out in the future."
October 15, 2018 - Warren releases results of a DNA test showing she has distant Native American ancestry, with analysis performed by Carlos Bustamante, a professor of genetics at Stanford University and adviser to Ancestry and 23 and Me. The Cherokee Nation issues a statement in response to the test, criticizing Warren for using DNA to claim tribal heritage.
November 6, 2018 - Is re-elected for a second term in the US Senate.

December 31, 2018 - Announces that she is forming a presidential exploratory committee.
January 31, 2019 - The Intercept reports that Warren reached out to Cherokee leaders and apologized in the wake of the DNA testing.
February 4, 2019 - Warren tells CNN she has apologized to Cherokee leaders for sparking "confusion" by her use of a DNA test to prove Native American ancestry, adding that she didn't mean to cause any "harm" to the tribe by citing her heritage "decades ago."
February 5, 2019 - The Washington Post reports Warren listed her race as "American Indian" on a State Bar of Texas registration card in 1986.
February 9, 2019 - Warren officially launches her 2020 presidential campaign at a rally in Lawrence, Massachusetts.
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I live here.

WTF has she done?!?!

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Birth date: June 22, 1949
And there you have it. She's a 22 which is a Master Number in numerology.
Case closed.

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And there you have it. She's a 22 which is a Master Number in numerology.

Case closed.



Um. Are you being serious here?

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For me, at this point I don't even give a crap anymore. The oligarchs have control of everything and have brainwashed the masses so badly that they've got them actively fighting against their own interests.

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Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. Theyíve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls.

They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they donít want: They donít want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They donít want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. Theyíre not interested in that. That doesnít help them. That's against their interests. That's right. They donít want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly theyíre getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They donít want that.

You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now theyíre coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? Theyíll get it. Theyíll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ainít in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy.

The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesnít matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who donít give a fuck about them. They donít give a fuck about you. They donít give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday.

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I wouldn't be so quick to discount Elizabeth Warren. She is co-opting Clinton voters (Clinton, who actually won the presidency) and taking over some historically Bernie-backing groups. Apart from the "Pocahontas" zinger, what does Trump have to outshine her?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eliza...b077dcbd62cf5e


Funny how lefties like to ignore the importance of the Electoral College. Only an idiot wants urban populations to decide everything.


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I wouldn't be so quick to discount Elizabeth Warren. She is co-opting Clinton voters (Clinton, who actually won the presidency) and taking over some historically Bernie-backing groups. Apart from the "Pocahontas" zinger, what does Trump have to outshine her?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eliza...b077dcbd62cf5e
Stupid, beyond belief.
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