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Old 11-14-2017, 09:56 AM   #16
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How does Brady not have more all-pros than Rich Gannon?
Gannon had two terrific seasons and a combination of bad timing (two Brady MVP-caliber seasons aligning with Ryan/Rodgers having historically great years), recency bias and reputation.
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How does Brady not have more all-pros than Rich Gannon?
The same reason Bill doesn't win Coach of the Year every year, even though he's the best.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:20 AM   #18
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How does Brady not have more all-pros than Rich Gannon?
Brady does actually. Gannon has 2 first team all pros and Brady also had 2 first team all pros AND Brady also has 2 second team all pros. Also Brady has 2 league MVPs to Gannon's 1. I mean the argument has weak sauce all over it.
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Brady - 5 SB wins


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Old 11-14-2017, 10:41 AM   #20
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Gannon had two terrific seasons and a combination of bad timing (two Brady MVP-caliber seasons aligning with Ryan/Rodgers having historically great years), recency bias and reputation.
Doesn't speak well for the All-Pro

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So is Terry Bradshaw tied for number two on your list?
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Except Brady has WAAAY more than just 5 rings. We have been over all this on threads before. His resume is the most complete and most accomplished of any QB that has ever played. What has cemented him as the clear GOAT IMO is the last 3 years where he has played at an MVP-level at ages 37-39 and secured 2 more rings. His body of work AND longevity playing at a top notch level has separated him from the field by a wide margin. And yet here he is setting MORE records for a QB at age 40.
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Doesn't speak well for the All-Pro
Next thing you'll tell me is that media-voted awards aren't 100% foolproof.
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Brady should have won last year, but missed 4 games. He's on track to get his 3rd this year:

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Except Brady has WAAAY more than just 5 rings. We have been over all this on threads before. His resume is the most complete and most accomplished of any QB that has ever played. What has cemented him as the clear GOAT IMO is the last 3 years where he has played at an MVP-level at ages 37-39 and secured 2 more rings. His body of work AND longevity playing at a top notch level has separated him from the field by a wide margin. And yet here he is setting MORE records for a QB at age 40.
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So is Terry Bradshaw tied for number two on your list?
Bradshaw’s under rated in EVERYONES all time list.

It was pre-testing, no salary cap, incredible roster that solidified things for him.

But he sure didn’t have 9-12 one-and-dones as a 1 or 2 seed.

He drove the bus admirably.
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Bradshaw’s under rated in EVERYONES all time list.

It was pre-testing, no salary cap, incredible roster that solidified things for him.

But he sure didn’t have 9-12 one-and-dones as a 1 or 2 seed.

He drove the bus admirably.
Spot on Dwight.
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Bradshaw’s under rated in EVERYONES all time list.

It was pre-testing, no salary cap, incredible roster that solidified things for him.

But he sure didn’t have 9-12 one-and-dones as a 1 or 2 seed.

He drove the bus admirably.
Defense carried the first 2 SB, but the Pittsburgh offense was great for three and four.
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Just for shits and giggles, though, here are the averages for Manning's 7 first team all-pro seasons.

376/555 - 67.8% comp - 4,458 yards - 8.0 ypa - 37 TDs - 11 INTs

Here are Brady's averages from a cherry picked selection of 6 NON-first time all-pro seasons*:

383/593 - 64.6% comp - 4,629 yards - 7.8 ypa - 34 TDs - 9 INTs[/I]
Please forgive me quoting myself, but I thought this comparison would have gained more traction. Is it just me that finds this type of similarity in such a biased sample remarkable?
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Please forgive me quoting myself, but I thought this comparison would have gained more traction. Is it just me that finds this type of similarity in such a biased sample remarkable?
Great work compiling that. I missed your OP. But this is just evidence of the media bias.
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