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Old 06-02-2016, 02:41 PM   #181
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AUSTIN, TX – -(Ammoland.com)- For the past nine years, Students for Concealed Carry has consistently made the case that college campuses are not immune to violent crime and that vetted, licensed adults should, therefore, enjoy the same measure of personal protection on campus that they’re allowed virtually everywhere else.

Yet every time there is a shooting at a supposedly “gun-free” college or university, opponents of campus carry point to the incident as if it somehow proves the dangers of laws and policies allowing the licensed, concealed carry of handguns at institutions of higher education—laws and policies that clearly played no part in a shooting on a “gun-free” campus.

Immediately following the first reports of Wednesday’s murder-suicide at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), the blogosphere and social media lit up with claims that this murder of a university professor, by a student who then took his own life, somehow proves that Texas’ campus carry law, which takes effect August 1 2016, places professors in the crosshairs of students agitated about failing grades or controversial classroom lectures.

The people who espouse that view are unswayed by the fact that this shooting took place in a state that recently made it a crime for a license holder to possess a gun on a university campus; the fact that none of the 100+ U.S. college campuses that allow licensed concealed carry has seen a single resulting murder, suicide, assault, or suicide attempt; or the fact that most colleges and universities lack any type of screening measure to prevent someone (e.g., a disgruntled student intent on shooting a professor) from bringing a gun onto campus illegally.
If this premeditated shooting at UCLA calls any policies or laws into question, it is the policies and laws denying law-abiding professors the means to defend themselves where they’re most vulnerable.

Michael Newbern, assistant director of public relations for Students for Concealed Carry and a part-time instructor of engineering economics at Ohio State University, commented, “Many opponents of campus carry live so far inside the bubble that every campus shooting, no matter the circumstances, reinforces their simplistic view that guns plus college equals tragedy.”

“At Students for Concealed Carry, we prefer to look at the specific circumstances of a shooting and the totality of the evidence regarding campus carry. Our sympathies are with the families and friends touched by this tragedy, but we will not sit idly by while this incident is misconstrued as somehow reflecting lawful campus carry.”

ABOUT STUDENTS FOR CONCEALED CARRY — Students for Concealed Carry (SCC) is a national, non-partisan, grassroots organization comprising college students, faculty, staff, and concerned citizens who believe that holders of state-issued concealed handgun licenses should be allowed the same measure of personal protection on college campuses that current laws afford them virtually everywhere else. SCC is not affiliated with the NRA or any other organization.

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Unbelievably: Katie Couric “Apologizes” with Second Misleading Edit, Doubling Down

On Monday, Katie Couric issued a public apology about her purposely deceptive editing of the answers Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) members gave to a question about felons and guns.

Unbelievably In Her Apology, Katie Has *Again* Selectively Edited The Response To That Question!

You simply cannot make this stuff up.

On the obscure web page where Katie buries her apology, there is a transcript of the response VCDL’s members gave to katie’s question. The problem is that the transcript stops only about one-quarter of the way into the response, clipping off the most relevant parts of the answer!

And the transcript stops at a convenient place for Katie, where Patricia Webb has just asked Katie rhetorically, “Tell me one law that has ever stopped a crime from happening.” That sounds like an odd response by itself, but Pat goes on to clarify exactly what she means and it doesn’t help Katie’s case. There are other responses damning to Katie’s position on gun control, too, but none of that made it into the transcript.

All Katie had to do was put the audio of the full 4-minute response on the apology page, but she knew that people would be less likely to read a transcript than to listen to some audio. And if they did read the transcript, the last thing they read, with Katie’s edit, sounds like the group isn’t firing on all its cylinders.
If you ignore the twisting of gun-owner’s words by taking a comment out of context, that is not an appolgy.
AND COURIC STILL DOES NOT SAY SHE WILL FIX THE FILM!

Instead somebody watching the film on cable will have no idea that there is an “apology” buried on the film’s website for the unethical liberties Katie took with the VCDL members’ responses. Unless the actual responses are put back in the footage where she replaced them with silence, years from now, long after the so-called apology website is gone, this gun-control manifesto will be considered the correct version of events.

No, this is NOT an apology, but Katie simply twisting the knife. She just can’t help herself, I guess. She refuses to have her push for “universal background checks” shown for the worthless bureaucratic process that it is.
Here is the “apology”:

http://underthegunmovie.com/message-from-katie

Katie Couric

As Executive Producer of “Under the Gun,” a documentary film that explores the epidemic of gun violence, I take responsibility for a decision that misrepresented an exchange I had with members of the Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL). My question to the VCDL regarding the ability of convicted felons and those on the terror watch list to legally obtain a gun, was followed by an extended pause, making the participants appear to be speechless.

When I screened an early version of the film with the director, Stephanie Soechtig, I questioned her and the editor about the pause and was told that a “beat” was added for, as she described it, “dramatic effect,” to give the audience a moment to consider the question. When VCDL members recently pointed out that they had in fact immediately answered this question, I went back and reviewed it and agree that those eight seconds do not accurately represent their response.

VCDL members have a right for their answers to be shared and so we have posted a transcript of their responses here. I regret that those eight seconds were misleading and that I did not raise my initial concerns more vigorously.

I hope we can continue to have an important conversation about reducing gun deaths in America, a goal I believe we can all agree on.

Transcript with VCDL Response:

KATIE: If there are no background checks, how do you prevent … I know how you all are going to answer this, but I’m asking anyway. If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from walking into, say a licensed gun dealer and purchasing a gun?

MALE: Well, one, if you’re not in jail then you should still have your basic rights and you should go buy a gun.

KATIE: So, if you’re a terrorist or a felon …

MALE: If you’re a felon and you’ve done your time, you should have your rights.

MALE: The fact is we do have statutes, both at the federal and state level that prohibit classes of people from being in possession of firearms. If you’re under 18 in Virginia you can’t walk around with a gun. If you’re an illegal immigrant, if you’re a convicted felon, if you’ve been adjudicated in same, these things are already illegal. So, what we’re really asking about is a question of prior restraint. How can we prevent future crime by identifying bad guys before they do anything bad? And, the simple answer is you can’t.

And, particularly, under the legal system we have in the United States there are a lot of Supreme Court opinions that say, “No, prior restraint is something that the government does not have the authority to do.” Until there is an overt act that allows us to say, “That’s a bad guy,” then you can’t punish him.

FEMALE: I would take another outlook on this. First, I’ll ask you what crime or what law has ever stopped a crime? Tell me one law that has ever stopped a crime from happening.


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Read more: http://www.ammoland.com/2016/05/kati...#ixzz4AS9agPc7
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Hmmm...she performed "selective editing"??? Where are the outcries???? Oh, NVM.
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Unbelievably: Katie Couric “Apologizes” with Second Misleading Edit, Doubling Down

On Monday, Katie Couric issued a public apology about her purposely deceptive editing of the answers Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) members gave to a question about felons and guns.

Unbelievably In Her Apology, Katie Has *Again* Selectively Edited The Response To That Question!

You simply cannot make this stuff up.

On the obscure web page where Katie buries her apology, there is a transcript of the response VCDL’s members gave to katie’s question. The problem is that the transcript stops only about one-quarter of the way into the response, clipping off the most relevant parts of the answer!

And the transcript stops at a convenient place for Katie, where Patricia Webb has just asked Katie rhetorically, “Tell me one law that has ever stopped a crime from happening.” That sounds like an odd response by itself, but Pat goes on to clarify exactly what she means and it doesn’t help Katie’s case. There are other responses damning to Katie’s position on gun control, too, but none of that made it into the transcript.

All Katie had to do was put the audio of the full 4-minute response on the apology page, but she knew that people would be less likely to read a transcript than to listen to some audio. And if they did read the transcript, the last thing they read, with Katie’s edit, sounds like the group isn’t firing on all its cylinders.
If you ignore the twisting of gun-owner’s words by taking a comment out of context, that is not an appolgy.
AND COURIC STILL DOES NOT SAY SHE WILL FIX THE FILM!

Instead somebody watching the film on cable will have no idea that there is an “apology” buried on the film’s website for the unethical liberties Katie took with the VCDL members’ responses. Unless the actual responses are put back in the footage where she replaced them with silence, years from now, long after the so-called apology website is gone, this gun-control manifesto will be considered the correct version of events.

No, this is NOT an apology, but Katie simply twisting the knife. She just can’t help herself, I guess. She refuses to have her push for “universal background checks” shown for the worthless bureaucratic process that it is.
Here is the “apology”:

http://underthegunmovie.com/message-from-katie

Katie Couric

As Executive Producer of “Under the Gun,” a documentary film that explores the epidemic of gun violence, I take responsibility for a decision that misrepresented an exchange I had with members of the Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL). My question to the VCDL regarding the ability of convicted felons and those on the terror watch list to legally obtain a gun, was followed by an extended pause, making the participants appear to be speechless.

When I screened an early version of the film with the director, Stephanie Soechtig, I questioned her and the editor about the pause and was told that a “beat” was added for, as she described it, “dramatic effect,” to give the audience a moment to consider the question. When VCDL members recently pointed out that they had in fact immediately answered this question, I went back and reviewed it and agree that those eight seconds do not accurately represent their response.

VCDL members have a right for their answers to be shared and so we have posted a transcript of their responses here. I regret that those eight seconds were misleading and that I did not raise my initial concerns more vigorously.

I hope we can continue to have an important conversation about reducing gun deaths in America, a goal I believe we can all agree on.

Transcript with VCDL Response:

KATIE: If there are no background checks, how do you prevent … I know how you all are going to answer this, but I’m asking anyway. If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from walking into, say a licensed gun dealer and purchasing a gun?

MALE: Well, one, if you’re not in jail then you should still have your basic rights and you should go buy a gun.

KATIE: So, if you’re a terrorist or a felon …

MALE: If you’re a felon and you’ve done your time, you should have your rights.

MALE: The fact is we do have statutes, both at the federal and state level that prohibit classes of people from being in possession of firearms. If you’re under 18 in Virginia you can’t walk around with a gun. If you’re an illegal immigrant, if you’re a convicted felon, if you’ve been adjudicated in same, these things are already illegal. So, what we’re really asking about is a question of prior restraint. How can we prevent future crime by identifying bad guys before they do anything bad? And, the simple answer is you can’t.

And, particularly, under the legal system we have in the United States there are a lot of Supreme Court opinions that say, “No, prior restraint is something that the government does not have the authority to do.” Until there is an overt act that allows us to say, “That’s a bad guy,” then you can’t punish him.

FEMALE: I would take another outlook on this. First, I’ll ask you what crime or what law has ever stopped a crime? Tell me one law that has ever stopped a crime from happening.


<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/y5uNt14dP3s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Read more: http://www.ammoland.com/2016/05/kati...#ixzz4AS9agPc7
Lol did you expect anything less from Katie?

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In honor of Katie Couric, I figure it is time to post a few more "Gun News" stories...

Concealed Carrying Hero Battled Mass Shooter In Houston: Media Silent

http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/05...-media-silent/

75-year-old victim of Sultan home invasion tells what happened before 80-year-old wife killed intruder

http://www.gunowners.org/defense04292016.htm

Shotgun-wielding robber killed by pistol packing pharmacist

http://www.guns.com/2016/06/07/shotg...ng-pharmacist/

Man Violates Protective Order, Shot ‘Multiple Times’ by Ex-Girlfriend

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ex-girlfriend/

Cops Say Home Invaders Likely Thought Stealing From 80-Year-Old Man Would Be ‘Easy.’ Then He Pulls Out His Gun.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016...s-out-his-gun/

Bad Guy Makes Fatal Mistake Of Raising His Gun To An Armed Homeowner

http://concealednation.org/2016/06/b...med-homeowner/

There, I feel better now.

Unlike Katie's story, these ones are true.
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In honor of Katie Couric, I figure it is time to post a few more "Gun News" stories...

Concealed Carrying Hero Battled Mass Shooter In Houston: Media Silent

http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/05...-media-silent/

75-year-old victim of Sultan home invasion tells what happened before 80-year-old wife killed intruder

http://www.gunowners.org/defense04292016.htm

Shotgun-wielding robber killed by pistol packing pharmacist

http://www.guns.com/2016/06/07/shotg...ng-pharmacist/

Man Violates Protective Order, Shot ‘Multiple Times’ by Ex-Girlfriend

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ex-girlfriend/

Cops Say Home Invaders Likely Thought Stealing From 80-Year-Old Man Would Be ‘Easy.’ Then He Pulls Out His Gun.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016...s-out-his-gun/

Bad Guy Makes Fatal Mistake Of Raising His Gun To An Armed Homeowner

http://concealednation.org/2016/06/b...med-homeowner/

There, I feel better now.

Unlike Katie's story, these ones are true.
You should feel better. I know I do.

Thanks Baron. and Couric, generally speaking.

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Even without a CHL, in Texas a person can carry a firearm in his vehicle under the "Castle Law". Now even WITHOUT that law in place, and no CHL, I would STILL carry a weapon with me in case of emergency. Legal or not, I would rather be facing weapons charges than to live with a dead family member or friend, or to leave my girls behind without a father.

That sort of disregard for the law might sound like the mind of a criminal, but I am one hell of a citizen.
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Even without a CHL, in Texas a person can carry a firearm in his vehicle under the "Castle Law". Now even WITHOUT that law in place, and no CHL, I would STILL carry a weapon with me in case of emergency. Legal or not, I would rather be facing weapons charges than to live with a dead family member or friend, or to leave my girls behind without a father.

That sort of disregard for the law might sound like the mind of a criminal, but I am one hell of a citizen.
As long as you understand that the risk you are taking is that, if you ever have to use it, even if justified, you and your family will likely lose everything to lawsuits and civil suits from the "victim's" family. Even if you are found not guilty, it will cost you and your family everything you own. Just look at OJ Simpson and George Zimmerman. Your life as you know it is over.

In Massachusetts, that may happen even if you are licensed unless you play it really smart.

I would advise anyone to go take a concealed carry class to learn the laws and proper use of force, even if you do not have or will not get a permit.

Generally, though....if you have the ability to get away, get away. If there is something going on that you are not involved in and do not know he facts 100%, just let it happen and walk away.

That woman being assaulted by man who is screaming that she is being raped? Let it happen and walk away. If it is a cop arresting a prostitute, you are looking at life in prison and the loss of your home to the family of the victim.

As a permit holder, you actually have less legal room to try to do the right thing than if you are an unarmed civilian.

And you especially can't bring your gun to a school, even if there is an active shooter. If the shooter doesn't get you, the government will. Not even to the school parking lot.
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Not even to the school parking lot.
I love Indiana gun laws on this area. Legal as long as you are in your vehicle. If you leave your vehicle, it has to be locked out of sight. No more a chance of being a felon if you need to pick up a sick child while out.
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Even without a CHL, in Texas a person can carry a firearm in his vehicle under the "Castle Law". Now even WITHOUT that law in place, and no CHL, I would STILL carry a weapon with me in case of emergency. Legal or not, I would rather be facing weapons charges than to live with a dead family member or friend, or to leave my girls behind without a father.

That sort of disregard for the law might sound like the mind of a criminal, but I am one hell of a citizen.
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If everyone in the club was carrying, would the result have been significantly better? If one person opens fire on the crowd and everyone starts drawing to take down the perp, how likely is it that only the perp and his victims go down? My gut tells me random untrained people in a crowded public settings are going to panic and fire at anyone they think is carrying/firing, resulting in a similar (but different) type of bloodbath.
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Alcohol and guns do not mix, check your guns in at the door and go party, if something goes down inside the club there are plenty of firearms available for the security/bouncers to stop the attack.
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