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Old 01-06-2020, 09:57 PM   #796
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Brady was below average this year. As in, below the average in the NFL. He was about 19th in QBR and 27th in completion percentage and YPP attempt. Yes, he had a crappy team around him. But Brady was off-target and made a bad thing worse.

Here's the problem: I don't mind Brady coming back, if a) he doesn't break the bank, and b) he's okay with possibly being benched halfway through the season and finishing his career on the pine watching Stidham. And I don't think either of those things happen. Bottom line is, at 42 he's not Tom F'in Brady: he's an average QB who, honestly, we could've replaced with Stidham in the past few games and probably had better results. If they surround him with better talent he might get back into the top ten in those categories. But he's not worth giant money, when they clearly need to upgrade across the roster (WR, TE, OL, some DL and secondary).


While true that a 42 year old Qb could not make that offense into something. I am not sure many 30 year olds could have either. If you can show me a QB that can have a great year when receivers have no separation, you have a beat up oline that is missing its best player, an iffy run game, and NO TE, then I say go get that damn guy. I think his lower completion pct was basically him saving the team from a lot of turnovers, because I do not remember these wide open guys running all over the field he was missing. So yeah, I am ok if Brady wants to retire, but if they dont fix what was there this year, a QB with zero experience in the NFL is going to be ruined in this offense. Also, no if they bring Brady back, they are not going to bench him half way through the season, that is for 5-11 teams, not ones that are trying to win one more year which is what they would be if they brought him back. Also, this is a celebration thread, not a trash your best player in team history on the way out. I am sure you can find that somewhere else.
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The greatest heist in NFL history occurred 20 years ago today.



Can it really be 20 years since Robert Kraft and Bill Parcells completed one of the most impactful transactions in the history of the NFL, a deal that was wrought with contentiousness but one that also helped transform a franchise?

Twitter was still several years away from existence back on Jan. 27, 2000, but it would be safe to suggest that few Patriots fans would have been constantly monitoring their feeds to update the events that led to Bill Belichick's arrival that day.

We all know the story by now but just as a quick refresher, Belichick's abrupt resignation as head coach of the Jets led to a power struggle between Kraft and Parcells, the former Patriots coach who had just stepped down from the top spot in New York to make way for Belichick. Ultimately the sides worked out an arrangement that led Kraft to send three draft picks including a first-rounder to New York for Belichick and a pair of late-round selections.

The deal quite possibly could be the greatest heist in league history.

His first order of business was basically to clean house, and those of us who were around at the time noticed immediately. Veterans were either sent packing or were clearly living on borrowed time. That 2000 team was so short on talent that it initially had four quarterbacks, the last of which has gone on to accomplish a thing or two in his two decades in New England.

The team finished 5-11, but in a lot of ways was more enjoyable to watch than its more talented predecessor the year prior. Belichick was instilling some toughness and accountability into his program, and all it took was one offseason to completely change the football landscape in New England forever.

The Patriots signed nearly two dozen free agents heading into the 2001 season. Any of the problem veterans that survived the initial purge were now gone as well. The group welcomed the defending NFC champion New York Giants to training camp that summer, and it was easy to see the Patriots were on their way back to respectability.

Few could have envisioned the Super Bowl title that would ensue, but watching those camp practices showed a renewed focus, not to mention an upgrade in overall talent.

Tom Brady eventually replaced the injured Drew Bledsoe, and Belichick now had the type of mistake-free quarterback he needed to make his system go. The 2001 Patriots won their final nine games en route to the title, and Belichick and Brady haven't stopped winning since.

The numbers are staggering:
  • 6 Super Bowl titles
  • 9 AFC titles
  • 17 AFC East division titles
  • Career record Ė 302-139 (.685)
  • Regular season Ė 273-127 (.683)
  • Postseason Ė 31-12 (.721)
  • Patriots record Ė 267-94 (.740)
Perhaps the most amazing aspect of Belichick's greatness is his unwavering consistency. Whether it be that day's meeting, a spring OTA session, a camp practice, preseason game or the Super Bowl, the coach's focus always seemed to be in one place only Ė on the specific task at hand.

"We're just trying to get the quarterback-center exchange down," he would often say during the offseason when asked about potential holes on the roster or other future problems down the road. While it was a way for Belichick to avoid offering any specifics, it also showed his ability to maintain focus on even the most mundane football tasks.

Watching him go about his daily business can be striking at times. With his trademark whistle spinning on his finger, Belichick commands the attention of his team on the field at all times. It's almost mesmerizing to witness if for no other reason than his consistent approach and commitment to remain on top.

There have been many behind the scenes NFL Films documentaries about Belichick showing the coach in his much younger days on the practice field. Aside from the graying of his hair, it would be impossible to distinguish Bill Belichick circa 2005 from the one who just wrapped up his 20th season with yet another division title.

The tone and demeanor are almost always the same, and the message is unwavering. His Patriots have been consistently the most prepared team in football, and watching the Patriots dominate in virtually any and all situations over the years has been striking.

For 20 years we've had front row seats for the greatest dynasty in the history of sports. All the while Bill Belichick has been at the helm, twirling his whistle and preparing his team for any and all possibilities. There has been and will continue to be plenty of speculation on Brady's future, but no such drama exists with the coach.

He appears to be the same guy today that he was back in 2000, when fans were wondering why Kraft would give up draft picks to get him. Only now he's the greatest coach of all time, and the best part is he seems like he has no intention of stopping anytime soon.


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Bill Belichick reached out to Kyle Shanahan after Super Bowl LI

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49ers coach Kyle Shanahan has acknowledged heís learned plenty of things about football since his days with the Falcons, when his team blew a 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl against the Patriots.

But he also learned something about the character of Patriots coach Bill Belichick.

Via Scott Bair of NBCSportsBayArea.com, Shanahan said Monday night that Belichick called him after that game.

ďIt was really cool that he reached out to me after the Super Bowl just to talk,Ē Shanahan said. ďI was able to spend some time with him at the [2017] NFL Combine, which I was very appreciative of.

ďAny time that guy talks, everyone in the world listens. That was especially true for someone like me who aspired to be a head coach. He has been great. Itís not like we talk a ton or anything, but heís a humble guy who likes to help people.Ē

For Shanahan, it was also a bit of a flashback, although he was glad to be able to participate in the conversation.

Belichick met with Shanahanís father Mike after the Broncos beat his team in the 2005 playoffs, and Kyle was hanging around his dadís office at the time.

ďI got kicked out of the room, and I had to sit and wait,Ē Shanahan said. ďI remember my dad saying how cool that was for him to come over after the game, after the Patriots had lost, just to talk ball with him.Ē

The relationship rekindled when the Patriots traded quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo to the 49ers, and itís generally acknowledged that the Patriots didnít hold out for the highest bidder, with Belichick sending his backup to a place he thought he could prosper.

ďHaving someone like Bill say something like that, for me and what I do in life, if pretty cool,Ē Shanahan said. ďThatís a big a compliment as I could personally have. It feels great. Hopefully thatís true because Iím very glad he felt that way, and I feel very fortunate that we were able to get Jimmy.Ē

That kind of respect within the coaching fraternity is rare for someone so young, but also indicative of the job Shanahan has done turning the 49ers around so quickly.
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It's an honor to announce that we'll be recognizing Bill Belichick with our 2020 Spirit of Tewaaraton Award! A passionate fan, supporter, and mentor for the game, Coach Belichick has continually given back to the sport throughout his amazing NFL career: http://bit.ly/BelichickSpiri

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And so it ends...After 20 exciting, sensational seasons with the New England Patriots, Tom Brady's accomplishments are truly historic.



And now his time with the Pats has come to an end with this message.
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I wonder if he'll make the Patriots HOF....I'm going to enjoy his bust in the Pro Football Hall of Fame
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He couldn't even win Patriots Player of the Week. It's not a lock.
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If only he had shown up for those voluntary OTA's at the end.
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This right here was telling imo...about what was in store.
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I dont think it played into anything, but maybe it did. I hope that he was not that spiteful or maybe it was something else. We might never know.
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Chatham: The only reasonable reaction to Tom Bradyís departure: Gratitude

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Gratitude. Itís really all my brain has room for on this somewhat surprising day when Tom Brady announced heíll finish his career somewhere other than Foxboro.
The road always ends in the NFL, we all know this. And itís usually not a fairytale ending. But with that said, Tomís career with the New England Patriots is so incredibly rare in professional sports ó several fairytales packed into what could easily be two Hall of Fame quarterback careers ó I donít think the ending is really that important to the greater story.
I see today as the bonus scenes in a movie, long after the breadth of the greater story itself was set in stone.
I can appreciate that some fans wonít see it that way. Some will have an understandable emotional reaction to this in one direction or the other, and that my relatively ambivalent feelings on his choice to play for another team to finish off his incomparable career might not be the norm.
But for me, I just figure if one pours as much appreciation and gratitude into any vessel as is deserved for what Tomís done for the game, for this organization, for this region, for this league Ö there isnít any room for anything else.
To be clear, with Tom weíre not talking now about the metaphorical back nine of a football career ó this isnít the eighteenth or even nineteenth hole. Weíre talking about a guy who dominated the sport the first time around the course like no other, then inexplicably did it again, and is now just squeezing in another couple holes before dark. As far as Iím concerned, weíve been in uncharted, all-gravy territory for quite some time.
I mean, for a friend and former teammate like me whoís long removed from his playing days but who adores highlighting the intricacies of the game for fans in my professional life, Bradyís incomparably long and successful career has already been a godsend many times over. Itís well past ridiculous how many countless times on TV, in a column, or on the radio or podcast Iíve used plays of his as an example of the benchmark ó how a football player can ace the little things that stats and TV game presentation usually miss.
Personal stuff aside, Iíve gotten so many times more than my moneyís worth as an analyst from Tom that to complain now that we donít get more would feel petty. But on that personal side, I canít think of another professional athlete whoís absolutely earned the right to finish things off in a way that makes him happy, wherever that ends up being. Throw the ball for another team for a while, whatever. His cup has long-since runneth over here.
My stories of what Tom is like as a teammate are well-worn, much like the many others from my era whoíve gotten to share these over and over the last decade as Tom kept chugging along and having Jostens parties. He squeals in practice for the team to get things right to the point where his voice cracks on the regular. He lurks around the building at all hours. He broods like no other when the wins donít come. He rejoices when they do while simultaneously planning for the next one like the perfect sports psychopath.
When I first saw his post announcing the end of his Patriots tenure this morning, my thoughts immediately went back to the days in his old Franklin condo. Just a bunch of young rookie knuckleheads ó David Nugent, Chris Eitzmann and myself ó dreaming about making our own place in the NFL over beers, meticulously chosen music playlists and Super Nintendo marathons and games of pool. The trips back and forth to The Rack and The Place in Boston nearly every Monday night. The trips to Franklin Flatbread for a pie and ice cream. The long lingering in the old stadium to try and get an edge and climb up a depth chart.
And Tom not only climbed it, he made the top of the depth chart his own. Not just New Englandís, but the top of the NFL quarterback depth chart. He built roots there deeper than any great professional athlete ever has or will. With a lilí context research, itís easy to see weíre in a stage with Tom that weíve never seen from any other great. Because of that, whatever uniform he wants to wear in his mid-40s, I really canít muster the mental energy to care much one way or the other.
Consider this: most sports icons with singular association with one team have never made it anywhere near the stage weíre now kvetching over with Brady. Bill Russell was a Celtic for 13 years. Bobby Orr was a Bruin for 10 years. Larry Bird a Celtic for 13 years. Michael Jordan a Bull for 14 years. Joe Montana a Niner for 14 seasons. Brett Favre a Packer for 16 years. Peyton Manning a Colt for 14 years. On and on and on.
Thereís nothing like this, so wanting it to end like some others did isnít really an accurate portrayal. They never made it this far.
Tomís loyalty and contribution to his original organization in time and production far surpasses every other athlete of his status ó itís not close. That heíd make a twilight choice that makes him happiest will forever be a stage that none of these other iconic players even got to. And thatís a fact I think all Patriots fans should never forget when deciding how they want to react to him being elsewhere now.
I realize the debates about what should or shouldnít have happened are going to go off the rails in the coming days, but personally, count me out on all that. I donít see much room for anything more than gratitude. Heís happy, Iím happy.
Tom was a selfless teammate, which is no small accomplishment when you consider he was so unlike the vast majority of the people he needed to bond with to make this thing go like it did for years and years. Youíll hear players from all walks of life born in the late 90s echo the same things about him as his older teammates born in the sixties. He was exactly what our teams needed. He was exactly what New England needed. He was exactly what the NFL needed.
Sports fandom often isnít about rational thought, I get that. But this situation has had plenty of time to marinate, even with the pseudo-suddenness of the final decision. As far as Iím concerned, thereís no rational room for wanting something more from Tom Brady.
Just gratitude.


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chatham: The only reasonable reaction to tom bradyís departure: Gratitude

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gratitude. Itís really all my brain has room for on this somewhat surprising day when tom brady announced heíll finish his career somewhere other than foxboro.
The road always ends in the nfl, we all know this. And itís usually not a fairytale ending. But with that said, tomís career with the new england patriots is so incredibly rare in professional sports ó several fairytales packed into what could easily be two hall of fame quarterback careers ó i donít think the ending is really that important to the greater story.
I see today as the bonus scenes in a movie, long after the breadth of the greater story itself was set in stone.
I can appreciate that some fans wonít see it that way. Some will have an understandable emotional reaction to this in one direction or the other, and that my relatively ambivalent feelings on his choice to play for another team to finish off his incomparable career might not be the norm.
But for me, i just figure if one pours as much appreciation and gratitude into any vessel as is deserved for what tomís done for the game, for this organization, for this region, for this league Ö there isnít any room for anything else.
To be clear, with tom weíre not talking now about the metaphorical back nine of a football career ó this isnít the eighteenth or even nineteenth hole. Weíre talking about a guy who dominated the sport the first time around the course like no other, then inexplicably did it again, and is now just squeezing in another couple holes before dark. As far as iím concerned, weíve been in uncharted, all-gravy territory for quite some time.
I mean, for a friend and former teammate like me whoís long removed from his playing days but who adores highlighting the intricacies of the game for fans in my professional life, bradyís incomparably long and successful career has already been a godsend many times over. Itís well past ridiculous how many countless times on tv, in a column, or on the radio or podcast iíve used plays of his as an example of the benchmark ó how a football player can ace the little things that stats and tv game presentation usually miss.
Personal stuff aside, iíve gotten so many times more than my moneyís worth as an analyst from tom that to complain now that we donít get more would feel petty. But on that personal side, i canít think of another professional athlete whoís absolutely earned the right to finish things off in a way that makes him happy, wherever that ends up being. Throw the ball for another team for a while, whatever. His cup has long-since runneth over here.
My stories of what tom is like as a teammate are well-worn, much like the many others from my era whoíve gotten to share these over and over the last decade as tom kept chugging along and having jostens parties. He squeals in practice for the team to get things right to the point where his voice cracks on the regular. He lurks around the building at all hours. He broods like no other when the wins donít come. He rejoices when they do while simultaneously planning for the next one like the perfect sports psychopath.
When i first saw his post announcing the end of his patriots tenure this morning, my thoughts immediately went back to the days in his old franklin condo. Just a bunch of young rookie knuckleheads ó david nugent, chris eitzmann and myself ó dreaming about making our own place in the nfl over beers, meticulously chosen music playlists and super nintendo marathons and games of pool. The trips back and forth to the rack and the place in boston nearly every monday night. The trips to franklin flatbread for a pie and ice cream. The long lingering in the old stadium to try and get an edge and climb up a depth chart.
And tom not only climbed it, he made the top of the depth chart his own. Not just new englandís, but the top of the nfl quarterback depth chart. He built roots there deeper than any great professional athlete ever has or will. With a lilí context research, itís easy to see weíre in a stage with tom that weíve never seen from any other great. Because of that, whatever uniform he wants to wear in his mid-40s, i really canít muster the mental energy to care much one way or the other.
Consider this: Most sports icons with singular association with one team have never made it anywhere near the stage weíre now kvetching over with brady. Bill russell was a celtic for 13 years. Bobby orr was a bruin for 10 years. Larry bird a celtic for 13 years. Michael jordan a bull for 14 years. Joe montana a niner for 14 seasons. Brett favre a packer for 16 years. Peyton manning a colt for 14 years. On and on and on.
Thereís nothing like this, so wanting it to end like some others did isnít really an accurate portrayal. They never made it this far.
Tomís loyalty and contribution to his original organization in time and production far surpasses every other athlete of his status ó itís not close. That heíd make a twilight choice that makes him happiest will forever be a stage that none of these other iconic players even got to. And thatís a fact i think all patriots fans should never forget when deciding how they want to react to him being elsewhere now.
I realize the debates about what should or shouldnít have happened are going to go off the rails in the coming days, but personally, count me out on all that. I donít see much room for anything more than gratitude. Heís happy, iím happy.
Tom was a selfless teammate, which is no small accomplishment when you consider he was so unlike the vast majority of the people he needed to bond with to make this thing go like it did for years and years. Youíll hear players from all walks of life born in the late 90s echo the same things about him as his older teammates born in the sixties. He was exactly what our teams needed. He was exactly what new england needed. He was exactly what the nfl needed.
Sports fandom often isnít about rational thought, i get that. But this situation has had plenty of time to marinate, even with the pseudo-suddenness of the final decision. As far as iím concerned, thereís no rational room for wanting something more from tom brady.
Just gratitude.


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