Mallett Trade/Keep?

[Michigan Dave]

Originally Posted by midgar8784

You are silly...

I've been #TeamRM15 since 2006. Assassin.

[midgar8784]

Originally Posted by Michigan Dave

I've been #TeamRM15 since 2006. Assassin.

I think i might have to see a bit more than the 4th quarter of a preseason game before I feel good about turning the reins over in the playoffs to him.

[Michigan Dave]

Originally Posted by midgar8784

I think i might have to see a bit more than the 4th quarter of a preseason game before I feel good about turning the reins over in the playoffs to him.

I was comfortable turning the team over to Brady despite "just 3 4th quarter passes against the Lions on Thanksgiving" as the sample size.

Transferrable skills.

[midgar8784]

Originally Posted by Michigan Dave

I was comfortable turning the team over to Brady despite "just 3 4th quarter passes against the Lions on Thanksgiving" as the sample size.

Transferrable skills.

Brady was the exception, not the rule. It does not work out like that all the time.

[Michigan Dave]

Originally Posted by midgar8784

Brady was the exception, not the rule. It does not work out like that all the time.

I'm just sayin', in August 2000, I was #TeamTB12. Transferrable skills.

[midgar8784]

Originally Posted by Michigan Dave

I'm just sayin', in August 2000, I was #TeamTB12. Transferrable skills.

You do have a point and you did call the Texans game.

[sg14]

Originally Posted by dchester

If they could get Cassel cheap, that would meet my requirements for trading Mallet.

To be honest, I'm not sure yet if KC will cut Cassel or if he'll just take a pay cut to keep his job. There will be a dozen teams trying to get Alex Smith, and the other 11 may quickly figure out, there's not much else out there.

Cassel has had a couple really good season in the past, so there's reason to think that with the right coaching, he could do it again.

Originally Posted by Oswlek

My vivid memories of Ryan at Arkansas aren't quite so positive.

I remember an Arkansas game where mallet got hurt and t Wilson came in and it was "whoa this Qb is going to be good! " wilson that is.

[MightyMitts]

Leaking interest in Mallett this early makes this QB class look even weaker. It's one thing if one of us says that these QBs suck. It's quite different when GMs around the league are looking to avoid this QB class. I would trade him for any top 60 pick. I'd even trade him for a 2014 1st plus change.

[MaineMan]

Originally Posted by MightyMitts

Leaking interest in Mallett this early makes this QB class look even weaker. It's one thing if one of us says that these QBs suck. It's quite different when GMs around the league are looking to avoid this QB class. I would trade him for any top 60 pick. I'd even trade him for a 2014 1st plus change.

Again, leaving the Pats with WHO, exactly, to run the offense in the event of another 2008? All these GMs are avoiding this QB class for good reason, and yet the Pats are going to be able to miraculously pluck a gem of a backup to Brady out of the crap?

[chevss454]

Originally Posted by MaineMan

Again, leaving the Pats with WHO, exactly, to run the offense in the event of another 2008? All these GMs are avoiding this QB class for good reason, and yet the Pats are going to be able to miraculously pluck a gem of a backup to Brady out of the crap?

I'm interested in how Reid solves his QB problem.

[Oswlek]

Originally Posted by MaineMan

Again, leaving the Pats with WHO, exactly, to run the offense in the event of another 2008? All these GMs are avoiding this QB class for good reason, and yet the Pats are going to be able to miraculously pluck a gem of a backup to Brady out of the crap?

Hoyer and Cassel were both nobodies who were first year #2 backups. There is plenty of precedent for NE being comfortable with that kind of move.

[OSUBuckeye]

Originally Posted by chevss454

I'm interested in how Reid solves his QB problem.

Makes two of us,chev.

Perhaps, Alex Smith.

Surely he wouldn't bring Vick with him.

Seattle is going to have to dump Flynn, I think. That's something to keep an eye on.

[king of kings]

Originally Posted by OSUBuckeye

Makes two of us,chev.

Perhaps, Alex Smith.

Surely he wouldn't bring Vick with him.

Seattle is going to have to dump Flynn, I think. That's something to keep an eye on.

Flynn & smith will be his two biggest targets in FA. I won't be surprised if he tries to bring back kolb. Who had some success in his offense.

[OSUBuckeye]

Originally Posted by king of kings

Flynn & smith will be his two biggest targets in FA. I won't be surprised if he tries to bring back kolb. Who had some success in his offense.

If a team wants Flynn they will have to make a trade for him. He isn't a FA.

[MaineMan]

Originally Posted by Oswlek

Hoyer and Cassel were both nobodies who were first year #2 backups. There is plenty of precedent for NE being comfortable with that kind of move.

Well, there's a difference between an untested rookie "nobody" as #2 backup (out of three) and such a guy as SOLE backup, and that may be where we're miscommunicating.

Cassell had Flutie behind him as a rookie and Testaverde behind him his 2nd year, so he wasn't their SOLE option.

Hoyer ended up being pretty much the sole backup as an untested rookie in 2009 (though they tried, and failed, during the off-season to find a veteran 3rd option behind him) mainly because they suddenly HAD TO shed Cassell's Franchise Tag cap hit. I wouldn't assume that they were necessarily comfortable with the situation (though by 2010, they were, apparently).

They kept (now experienced) Hoyer for Mallett's first season in 2011 and even hung the 2nd-round RFA tender on him in March 2012 in order to keep him at least through camp (until they were comfortable going with Mallett alone).

My point is that the Pats are unlikely to be comfortable relying on an untested rookie as Brady's SOLE backup (especially, perhaps, one from THIS class). So, if the Pats took a draft pick for Mallet at this point, I think they'd likely feel it necessary to devote a roster spot to a 3rd QB, a veteran insurance policy. And I'm not seeing a vet QB out there right now who I'd personally trust even as much as the aging Flutie or Testaverde. And taking that roster spot from another unit may well be something they'd prefer not to do right now.

So, while grabbing that hypothetical 3rd rounder for Mallett sounds great out of context, there are other costs/risks involved that need to be figured in.